From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19978 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2021 12:14:19 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 18 Mar 2021 12:14:19 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 76BE29C21C; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 22:14:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1869B68A; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 22:13:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 64A769B68A; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 22:13:51 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 537 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 22:13:47 AEST Received: from zimbra.anteil.com (zimbra.anteil.com [67.110.179.138]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54C69B688 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 22:13:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.anteil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF79510144; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:04:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zimbra.anteil.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.anteil.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sjeiFDkLghKo; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zimbra.anteil.com (zimbra.anteil.com [192.168.1.22]) by zimbra.anteil.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B01110062; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 07:04:48 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Capp To: Mike Knell Message-ID: <22485620.13.1616069088201.JavaMail.root@zimbraanteil> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12_13810822.1616069088199" X-Originating-IP: [192.168.200.43] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.7_GA_2476.RHEL4 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Linux)/6.0.7_GA_2473.UBUNTU8) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Micnet Was: Re: Surprised about Unix System V in the 80's - so sparse! X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list , Paul Ruizendaal Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" ------=_Part_12_13810822.1616069088199 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, we used MMDF quite extensively until TCP/IP.=20 I remember paying $800 for a network card for a PC in the mid 90's.=20 Just this week, I discarded a box filled with old 10/100 cards.=20 From: "Mike Knell via TUHS" =20 To: "Paul Ruizendaal" =20 Cc: "TUHS main list" =20 Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 7:27:26 AM=20 Subject: Re: [TUHS] Micnet Was: Re: Surprised about Unix System V in the 80= 's - so sparse!=20 > On 18 Mar 2021, at 10:44, Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS = wrote:=20 >=20 > Does anybody here know the backstory to Micnet and/or how it worked?=20 The Xenix communications manual has plenty of detail on how to set it up:= =20 http://www.nj7p.org/Manuals/PDFs/Intel/174461-001.pdf=20 Looks as if it built a routed network among a set of Xenix machines using= =20 conventional serial lines, including remote login / file transfer / mail=20 ervices. Would have been quite a big selling point for software development= =20 shops in the days before TCP/IP and ubiquitous connectivity, especially as= =20 it looks as if it was decentralised and didn=E2=80=99t require any extra se= rver=20 hardware. MMDF could route mail between Micnet and UUCP.=20 Mike=20 ------=_Part_12_13810822.1616069088199 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >Yes, we used MMDF quite extensively until TCP/IP.

I rem= ember paying $800 for a network card for a PC in the mid 90's.
Just this week, I discarded a box filled with old 10/100 cards= .


From: "Mike Knell via TUHS" <= ;tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
To: "Paul Ruizendaal" <pnr@planet.nl= >
Cc: "TUHS main list" <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Sent= : Thursday, March 18, 2021 7:27:26 AM
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Mic= net Was: Re: Surprised about Unix System V in the 80's - so sparse!

=

> On 18 Mar 2021, at 10:44, Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS <tuhs@mi= nnie.tuhs.org> wrote:
>
> Does anybody here know the backst= ory to Micnet and/or how it worked?

The Xenix communications manual = has plenty of detail on how to set it up:
http://www.nj7p.org/Manuals/PD= Fs/Intel/174461-001.pdf

Looks as if it built a routed network among = a set of Xenix machines using
conventional serial lines, including remot= e login / file transfer / mail
ervices. Would have been quite a big sell= ing point for software development
shops in the days before TCP/IP and u= biquitous connectivity, especially as
it looks as if it was decentralise= d and didn=E2=80=99t require any extra server
hardware. MMDF could route= mail between Micnet and UUCP.

Mike



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