From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 0135d694 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 20:41:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 90A0893DA1; Sun, 20 Oct 2019 06:41:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12F693D6E; Sun, 20 Oct 2019 06:41:37 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=kilonet.net header.i=@kilonet.net header.b="BB0QhQtp"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C844393D6E; Sun, 20 Oct 2019 06:41:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.102]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6182593D31 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2019 06:41:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from medusa.kilonet.net ([72.69.223.115]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPA id LvXbi6j8M2h2cLvXbijn6P; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 13:41:35 -0700 Received: from [199.89.231.101] (ender.kilonet.net [199.89.231.101]) by medusa.kilonet.net (8.14.8/8.15.1) with ESMTP id x9JKfYpC021890 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2019 16:41:35 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kilonet.net; s=default; t=1571517695; bh=45tdy25yd/R9JDGfP8Pkbs4mdmv4QMp+qpChOnhQwY4=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=BB0QhQtp9P0cTyeQvnsqMz30wQ5ofFTUQRuP9gxx566XfgEjDgY1d985DWwWa1kwy 6pFI/Q7gOtTEo868Ec7uWEGFt+i5uhOLoiJQm0+T8ptas+sePG9T4KegSaxlUtb4Z9 X9lJPNlvL4RFyn9gckElh3fq3Ub760jh6kYr+9aw= To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <1571492733.19343.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> <20191019202745.GA31260@mail.ewe2.ninja> From: Arthur Krewat Message-ID: <239097c0-a864-079b-a5da-ce99a530a3e5@kilonet.net> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 16:41:23 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191019202745.GA31260@mail.ewe2.ninja> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfOjIknitEUUazbxjMep2XvPY1CHU7pEuTXhxC1oGyAtkEjAwokcTkYPfcaK+E5d3Rmup1G+oWGqVapZGg+dwQaJ09koDgMXmBJ3zjr0hATuj0TDOK3hS CG3cxK+P7Le9PW7EaBoKtgJWeYCb0RYroPR5P9pVzIkVl+/GtoZYjvbaNiKguaDmjw7tYq9+PG0cxg== Subject: Re: [TUHS] Recovered /etc/passwd files X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 10/19/2019 4:27 PM, ewe2 wrote: > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 09:45:30AM -0400, Norman Wilson wrote: >> I'm amused (in a good way) that this thread persists, and >> without becoming boring. >> >> Speaking as someone who was Ken's sysadmin for six years, >> I find it hard to get upset over someone cracking a password >> hash that has been out in the open for decades, using an >> algorithm that became pragmatically unsafe slightly fewer >> decades ago. It really shouldn't be in use anywhere any >> more anyway. Were I still Ken's sysadmin I'd have leaned >> on him to change it long ago. > > I have a disk from one of Melbourne Uni's old Alpha servers from back in the > 1990's and the passwd file is a who's who of staff, but I could only crack 3 > of the student's passwords. The system is interesting in other ways, it's a > snapshot of the old oz.au network. > Contact me off list ;) art k.