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From: Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl>
To: Anthony Martin <ality@pbrane.org>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: forgotten versions
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 22:45:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <249B533B-E8D4-462C-8A6D-16A198BA055D@planet.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YrdfK5rguPEftall@alice>


> On 25 Jun 2022, at 21:16, Anthony Martin <ality@pbrane.org> wrote:
> 
> The following papers are a good overview of Datakit and its
> predecessors.
> 
> A. Fraser, "Towards a Universal Data Transport System," in IEEE
> Journal on Selected Areas in Communications, vol. 1, no. 5, pp.
> 803-816, November 1983, doi: 10.1109/JSAC.1983.1145998.
> 
> A. G. Fraser, "Early experiments with asynchronous time division
> networks," in IEEE Network, vol. 7, no. 1, pp. 12-26, Jan. 1993,
> doi:10.1109/65.193084.
> 
> The latter mentions Plan 9 but only in passing.

Yes, those are great papers - unfortunately behind a paywall.

There is a great 1994 video on Youtube by Sandy Fraser himself that more or less follows the 1993 paper: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojRtJ1U6Qzw

As Doug mentioned on this list, Sandy Fraser passed away earlier this month.

In the past years I’ve worked on understanding (early) Datakit and Sandy Fraser and his wife were most kind with assistance looking for papers. I’ve also benefitted from the input of Bill Marshall and of course Doug McIlroy. I’ll share my summary of Research Datakit in a separate post.

Paul

> Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl> once said:
>> Probably you will see echoes of this in early Plan9 network code, but I have not studied that.
> 
> As someone how has studied Plan 9 extensively, though with no insider
> knowledge, it's definitely noticeable.
> 
> "In the aftermath, perhaps the most valuable effect of dealing with
> Datakit was to encourage the generalized and flexible approach to
> networking begun in 8th edition Unix that is carried forward into Plan
> 9." - dmr (2004)
> 
> Cheers,
>  Anthony


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-25 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-24  6:47 Paul Ruizendaal
2022-06-25 19:16 ` Anthony Martin
2022-06-25 20:45   ` Paul Ruizendaal [this message]
2022-06-27  0:57     ` Kevin Bowling
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-06-23  2:18 Noel Chiappa
2022-06-22 12:06 Noel Chiappa
2022-06-23  0:02 ` Dan Cross
2022-06-18 19:55 Paul Ruizendaal
2022-06-18  0:35 Douglas McIlroy
2022-06-18  5:00 ` Kevin Bowling
2022-06-18  5:13   ` Adam Thornton
2022-06-18 16:58     ` Clem Cole
2022-06-18 17:18       ` Warner Losh
2022-06-18 17:57         ` Clem Cole
2022-06-17 14:50 Paul Ruizendaal
2022-06-16 23:06 [TUHS] " Rob Pike
2022-06-16 23:17 ` [TUHS] " Earl Baugh
2022-06-16 23:18 ` George Michaelson
2022-06-16 23:44   ` George Michaelson
2022-06-17  0:10     ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-17  7:20 ` Diomidis Spinellis
2022-06-17  7:33   ` Rob Pike
2022-06-17  8:34   ` arnold
2022-06-17 10:52 ` arnold
2022-06-18  7:05 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19  7:50   ` Rob Pike
2022-06-19  8:17     ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19  8:53       ` Rob Pike
2022-06-19  9:02         ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19  9:14           ` arnold
2022-06-19  9:19             ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19  9:23               ` arnold
2022-06-19 11:37                 ` Matthias Bruestle
2022-06-19 14:47         ` Kenneth Goodwin
2022-06-19 16:27           ` Al Kossow
2022-06-19 18:32           ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-06-19 18:38             ` Dan Cross
2022-06-21 23:56               ` Jacob Moody
2022-06-22  0:13                 ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-22  0:48                   ` Rob Pike
2022-06-22  1:55                     ` George Michaelson
2022-06-22  2:10                       ` Bakul Shah
2022-06-22  2:14                       ` Jon Steinhart
2022-06-22  2:19                         ` Andrew Hume
2022-06-22  2:58                           ` Rob Pike
2022-06-22  3:09                             ` George Michaelson
2022-06-22  2:16                   ` Andrew Hume
2022-06-22  2:55                   ` Brad Spencer

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