From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19214 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2022 00:31:17 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Jun 2022 00:31:17 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D1B42203; Sat, 4 Jun 2022 10:31:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (pb-smtp21.pobox.com [173.228.157.53]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 851E742202 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2022 10:31:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from pb-smtp21.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA5D19B3D7 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2022 20:31:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ylee@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h= mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references; s=sasl; bh=QY4lEzN IifR48qW5/FgTOqWXpae5nuZFcTLzFFwer+c=; b=j8F3ieMcJweI1ucx0CNLAcI tqk5q5ct17pvghFOOpbSMVJJY4yAuzLQ3GPJyZzrhw9ZmjoP8aZ1lNH1Kw4gR/Cr Wm0XekVG6o2KD9+1ZXaHNBXjJ0ss4pJuV3aqZXzqUgPNT1CyQ83iCBE3o+npPhrC RFjMt/RxuhPoybM8IaKE= Received: from pb-smtp21.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B9C19B3D6 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2022 20:31:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ylee@pobox.com) Received: from dobie-old.ylee.org (unknown [173.228.16.228]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp21.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EDBDB19B3D5 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2022 20:30:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ylee@pobox.com) Received: by dobie-old.ylee.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 2B3DA238053; Fri, 3 Jun 2022 17:30:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <25242.42944.674126.149907@dobie-old.ylee.org> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 17:30:56 -0700 From: Yeechang Lee To: tuhs@tuhs.org In-Reply-To: <406144DC-1B0F-4C4A-AE3E-B7765F3B352A@pobox.com> References: <20220603202330.f4spdxyn34uiyy5v@illithid> <20220603213215.GO10240@mcvoy.com> <20220603214032.GQ10240@mcvoy.com> <20220603223014.GS10240@mcvoy.com> <406144DC-1B0F-4C4A-AE3E-B7765F3B352A@pobox.com> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 23.2.1 (i686-redhat-linux-gnu) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 9A4EC5E6-E39D-11EC-84A0-CBA7845BAAA9-11431884!pb-smtp21.pobox.com Message-ID-Hash: 64BREZZ67DVWOXTGZWRHZAUI5PPQM7HZ X-Message-ID-Hash: 64BREZZ67DVWOXTGZWRHZAUI5PPQM7HZ X-MailFrom: ylee@pobox.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Fwd: [simh] Announcing the Open SIMH project List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: David Arnold says: > I think a similar pattern was true for many of my era (late > 80=E2=80=99s/early 90=E2=80=99s). It was quite a bit easier to get a = Linux system > running while retaining a DOS, Windows or Minix system as a backup, > and so that was how it evolved. > > It had nothing (directly) to do with the legal issues. This is consistent with my experience. Until 1999 I used SunOS, then So= laris, as both student and student employee of Columbia's computing gro= up. But I doubt that I would have installed SunOS at home even if free.= Linux, on the other hand, was seemingly everywhere: Shelves of books (s= ome bundling a CD-ROM of some distribution) at bookstores, =5FLinux Jou= rnal=5F, Usenet discussions, online HOWTOs, others around me installing= Linux at home and at work. BSD=3F It didn't get 10% of the mindshare. Maybe that was a result of litigation, but I can 100% say for sure that= my choosing in 1995 to go with Red Hat 2.1 for a brand new Pentium had= nothing directly to do with any BSD-related litigation, because I wasn= 't aware of any such in the first place. --=20 geo:37.783333,-122.416667