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From: pechter@gmail.com (William Pechter)
Subject: [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years?
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 13:01:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <25536f85-cf80-bf01-4f9b-a4005da5caf6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <008e01d2904e$82375980$86a60c80$@ronnatalie.com>

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Ron Natalie wrote:
>
> Gosling Emacs was indeed written in C.   But so is/was GNU EMACS. It 
> started by outright stealing not only one of Gosling’s earlier 
> (pre-commercial) releases but RMS made off with improvements done at 
> UNIPRESS.
>
> However, after much wrangling between James, Unipress, and RMS, RMS 
> backed out the stuff stolen from UNIPRESS and chucked out Gosling’s 
> “mocklisp” interpretter for what RMS felt was a more correct “mlisp” 
> implementation.    Of course, most of the lisp stuff was largely 
> original to RMS’s project. This accounts for the really anti-UNIX 
> ugliness in some of his keybindings that is always the thing I program 
> when I have to use a Xemacs implementation (who the hell thought using 
> BACKSPACE for “help” was a good idea?   Well I know who, his 
> maloderous self used to show up at my house from time to time).
>
> My coworkers always used to laugh at me.   If there was no EMACS-like 
> editor on the machine (I also variously used Montgomery’s EMACS and 
> finally JOVE) on smaller machines that GosMacs was too heavy for), I 
> would just use “ed” (having been a master of that from when that was 
> all there was).    I never learned vi, and if I was stuck using it, I 
> ran it in ex mode.     I had a brief stint with the RandEditor AKA 
> Interactive Systems editor derived from it (InED).
>
>
Interesting how the Rand Editor seems to have been the choice of many.
Perkin-Elmer (later Concurrent) based their in-house office automation 
software
("Paper Free in '83.") On dog-slow UniPlus SysIII (IIRC -- later MicroXelos
UniPlus SysV based I think) on 68000 cpu 8 mhz machines.  No virtual memory
a dog-crap slow video subsystem.

Of course I got a truck load of them when they dumped them and I used
them to do the two county wide newsfeed until the PC Unix stuff
became available.

http://www.1000bit.it/ad/bro/perkin/PerkinElmer7350.pdf

The nice one I had was an XF200 MicroXelos box -- which was RARE.
It was a minitower without the graphics and with room for a pair of
80mb MFM drives.

Did one of 'em for system and user accts and one for partial newsfeed.

-- 
Digital had it then.  Don't you wish you could buy it now!
pechter-at-gmail.com  http://xkcd.com/705/



  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-26 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-25 14:17 Arno Griffioen
2017-02-25 14:32 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-25 16:35   ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-25 18:11     ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-25 18:16       ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 17:31   ` Clem Cole
2017-02-25 17:34     ` Charles Anthony
2017-02-25 17:36     ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 18:28     ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-27  5:08       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-25 17:40   ` Nemo
2017-02-25 17:43     ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 23:23   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-26 12:39     ` Noel Chiappa
2017-02-26 12:46       ` [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 16:05         ` Nemo
2017-02-26 17:05           ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 18:23             ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 19:19               ` Jim Carpenter
2017-02-26 19:39                 ` [TUHS] EMACS movemail suid root bug Michael Kjörling
     [not found]           ` <CALMnNGg3dRV0yPV1GgeqaOFG0Mb5PSNuqgPs8pLKOHYzurYEOg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-02-27  1:00             ` [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs Nemo
2017-02-27  1:48               ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-27  8:26                 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-27  1:19           ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-27  2:13             ` Nick Downing
2017-02-26 13:32       ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 14:19         ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 14:54           ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 15:25             ` Angelo Papenhoff
2017-02-26 15:55               ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 15:37             ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 15:52               ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 16:06                 ` tfb
2017-02-26 16:27                   ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 18:32                     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-27 16:04                       ` Tony Finch
2017-02-27 23:51                         ` Nick Downing
2017-02-26 16:22                 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 16:36                   ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 18:01                     ` William Pechter [this message]
2017-02-26 18:40               ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-26 16:06           ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 16:30             ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:15           ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:20             ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 17:23               ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:33               ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-26 17:39                 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 17:39                 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 19:33                   ` [TUHS] roff Larry McVoy
2017-02-26 19:34                     ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 19:36                       ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 19:46                         ` Dan Cross
2017-02-26 19:41                     ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 21:27                       ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 21:28                         ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-27 13:59                         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-28 20:15       ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Dave Horsfall
2017-02-28 20:22         ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-03-01  1:31           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-28 20:40         ` Jaap Akkerhuis
2017-03-01 12:45           ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-25 14:44 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during theyears? jsteve
2017-02-25 19:02 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Al Kossow
2017-02-26  4:06   ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-01  4:15 ` Gregg Levine
2017-03-01  7:17   ` arnold
2017-03-01  7:45   ` Ronald Natalie
2017-03-01 11:14     ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports duringthe years? jsteve
2017-03-01 14:54     ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Dan Cross
2017-03-01 15:41     ` Nemo
2017-03-01 18:17     ` Clem Cole
2017-03-02  2:13       ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-02  2:27       ` Gregg Levine

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