From: pechter@gmail.com (William Pechter)
Subject: [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years?
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 13:01:31 -0500 [thread overview]
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Ron Natalie wrote:
>
> Gosling Emacs was indeed written in C. But so is/was GNU EMACS. It
> started by outright stealing not only one of Gosling’s earlier
> (pre-commercial) releases but RMS made off with improvements done at
> UNIPRESS.
>
> However, after much wrangling between James, Unipress, and RMS, RMS
> backed out the stuff stolen from UNIPRESS and chucked out Gosling’s
> “mocklisp” interpretter for what RMS felt was a more correct “mlisp”
> implementation. Of course, most of the lisp stuff was largely
> original to RMS’s project. This accounts for the really anti-UNIX
> ugliness in some of his keybindings that is always the thing I program
> when I have to use a Xemacs implementation (who the hell thought using
> BACKSPACE for “help” was a good idea? Well I know who, his
> maloderous self used to show up at my house from time to time).
>
> My coworkers always used to laugh at me. If there was no EMACS-like
> editor on the machine (I also variously used Montgomery’s EMACS and
> finally JOVE) on smaller machines that GosMacs was too heavy for), I
> would just use “ed” (having been a master of that from when that was
> all there was). I never learned vi, and if I was stuck using it, I
> ran it in ex mode. I had a brief stint with the RandEditor AKA
> Interactive Systems editor derived from it (InED).
>
>
Interesting how the Rand Editor seems to have been the choice of many.
Perkin-Elmer (later Concurrent) based their in-house office automation
software
("Paper Free in '83.") On dog-slow UniPlus SysIII (IIRC -- later MicroXelos
UniPlus SysV based I think) on 68000 cpu 8 mhz machines. No virtual memory
a dog-crap slow video subsystem.
Of course I got a truck load of them when they dumped them and I used
them to do the two county wide newsfeed until the PC Unix stuff
became available.
http://www.1000bit.it/ad/bro/perkin/PerkinElmer7350.pdf
The nice one I had was an XF200 MicroXelos box -- which was RARE.
It was a minitower without the graphics and with room for a pair of
80mb MFM drives.
Did one of 'em for system and user accts and one for partial newsfeed.
--
Digital had it then. Don't you wish you could buy it now!
pechter-at-gmail.com http://xkcd.com/705/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-26 18:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-25 14:17 Arno Griffioen
2017-02-25 14:32 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-25 16:35 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-25 18:11 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-25 18:16 ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 17:31 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-25 17:34 ` Charles Anthony
2017-02-25 17:36 ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 18:28 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-27 5:08 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-25 17:40 ` Nemo
2017-02-25 17:43 ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 23:23 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-26 12:39 ` Noel Chiappa
2017-02-26 12:46 ` [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 16:05 ` Nemo
2017-02-26 17:05 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 18:23 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 19:19 ` Jim Carpenter
2017-02-26 19:39 ` [TUHS] EMACS movemail suid root bug Michael Kjörling
[not found] ` <CALMnNGg3dRV0yPV1GgeqaOFG0Mb5PSNuqgPs8pLKOHYzurYEOg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-02-27 1:00 ` [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs Nemo
2017-02-27 1:48 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-27 8:26 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-27 1:19 ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-27 2:13 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-26 13:32 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 14:19 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 14:54 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 15:25 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2017-02-26 15:55 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 15:37 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 15:52 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 16:06 ` tfb
2017-02-26 16:27 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 18:32 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-27 16:04 ` Tony Finch
2017-02-27 23:51 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-26 16:22 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 16:36 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 18:01 ` William Pechter [this message]
2017-02-26 18:40 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-26 16:06 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 16:30 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:15 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:20 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 17:23 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:33 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-26 17:39 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 17:39 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 19:33 ` [TUHS] roff Larry McVoy
2017-02-26 19:34 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 19:36 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 19:46 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-26 19:41 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 21:27 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 21:28 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-27 13:59 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-28 20:15 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Dave Horsfall
2017-02-28 20:22 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-03-01 1:31 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-28 20:40 ` Jaap Akkerhuis
2017-03-01 12:45 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-25 14:44 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during theyears? jsteve
2017-02-25 19:02 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Al Kossow
2017-02-26 4:06 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-01 4:15 ` Gregg Levine
2017-03-01 7:17 ` arnold
2017-03-01 7:45 ` Ronald Natalie
2017-03-01 11:14 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports duringthe years? jsteve
2017-03-01 14:54 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Dan Cross
2017-03-01 15:41 ` Nemo
2017-03-01 18:17 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-02 2:13 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-02 2:27 ` Gregg Levine
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