From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: pechter@gmail.com (William Pechter) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 13:01:31 -0500 Subject: [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? In-Reply-To: <008e01d2904e$82375980$86a60c80$@ronnatalie.com> References: <20170226123956.DBD3C18C088@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <58b2ec12.PWETi07hYb+bxrO0%schily@schily.net> <13D1D81F-F878-4D23-922A-279AADF29CFE@tfeb.org> <58b2f9c8.N21HJWDG1ABXGZ/w%schily@schily.net> <008e01d2904e$82375980$86a60c80$@ronnatalie.com> Message-ID: <25536f85-cf80-bf01-4f9b-a4005da5caf6@gmail.com> Ron Natalie wrote: > > Gosling Emacs was indeed written in C. But so is/was GNU EMACS. It > started by outright stealing not only one of Gosling’s earlier > (pre-commercial) releases but RMS made off with improvements done at > UNIPRESS. > > However, after much wrangling between James, Unipress, and RMS, RMS > backed out the stuff stolen from UNIPRESS and chucked out Gosling’s > “mocklisp” interpretter for what RMS felt was a more correct “mlisp” > implementation. Of course, most of the lisp stuff was largely > original to RMS’s project. This accounts for the really anti-UNIX > ugliness in some of his keybindings that is always the thing I program > when I have to use a Xemacs implementation (who the hell thought using > BACKSPACE for “help” was a good idea? Well I know who, his > maloderous self used to show up at my house from time to time). > > My coworkers always used to laugh at me. If there was no EMACS-like > editor on the machine (I also variously used Montgomery’s EMACS and > finally JOVE) on smaller machines that GosMacs was too heavy for), I > would just use “ed” (having been a master of that from when that was > all there was). I never learned vi, and if I was stuck using it, I > ran it in ex mode. I had a brief stint with the RandEditor AKA > Interactive Systems editor derived from it (InED). > > Interesting how the Rand Editor seems to have been the choice of many. Perkin-Elmer (later Concurrent) based their in-house office automation software ("Paper Free in '83.") On dog-slow UniPlus SysIII (IIRC -- later MicroXelos UniPlus SysV based I think) on 68000 cpu 8 mhz machines. No virtual memory a dog-crap slow video subsystem. Of course I got a truck load of them when they dumped them and I used them to do the two county wide newsfeed until the PC Unix stuff became available. http://www.1000bit.it/ad/bro/perkin/PerkinElmer7350.pdf The nice one I had was an XF200 MicroXelos box -- which was RARE. It was a minitower without the graphics and with room for a pair of 80mb MFM drives. Did one of 'em for system and user accts and one for partial newsfeed. -- Digital had it then. Don't you wish you could buy it now! pechter-at-gmail.com http://xkcd.com/705/