From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 8081 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2020 01:10:00 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Jul 2020 01:10:00 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2C10A9C9F7; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 11:09:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978A89BA4F; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 11:08:43 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=fastmail.com header.i=@fastmail.com header.b="jVEb3VjQ"; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b="NcO9/Qd3"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7DEB69BA4F; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 11:08:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6205D9BA36 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2020 11:08:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C37F5C0081 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 21:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap35 ([10.202.2.85]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 25 Jul 2020 21:08:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to :subject:content-type; s=fm3; bh=BDQGikB3dYEou4fl1ZS473WyKiUIb4L ThWoe05b5qM4=; b=jVEb3VjQdn8pcQTaMNW7CauBUi6NKLgAAZ3DCA7UxPNliDq RhxtrFWCjDoUhYgX8BtwvaUWYZZnfCk3AZoXjerDKRzDIA7GML5N6y+rjOaGUWs1 cRF3LQDdiNWohm1fezV9NevPX7lna1/C9BdklFWK8v0UboABJYnGpJIW2aYtnE2V R0d8YGWiLuB4xNrS5Kz1F3uaw162QxdJ6CGUc7jqScaEcwUSMy4lYSYroYgKyLJy ndxdtiR0VabvGh+GmLiNXo6TrJmRij9qxgvxDs/0cRd7pZ2OAqgUJWqTEUWzx+Lp SjkmVFXpivgB3E9JMdGsQhGoZtBjtAjp8e6aBlQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=BDQGik B3dYEou4fl1ZS473WyKiUIb4LThWoe05b5qM4=; b=NcO9/Qd3Y2ag9EfkOqlT+6 AtwAS5KgDD84P5pIXjdoqkjs9C1zO9z1DvuGzl9xiG9jA/DJQ5rNIiWOh+B+3F1d IWuVwPKxK3aeZriyJb3z2TQKSLSDhYtemmmpkHFXyeWLpoe1PaQGVzMXGqkDoTcG wyI6OLLQPp9nwSdtVFXQ9j7nwQYcha5WSc9NXKBgYm5YhIygk+up7NRzPk+0AKpQ Fux06/uR3WheObvLjcevWESZbU3+W+DpfVcTDiyGiKZ8Anr6y63x7ufNqqkxCv76 Ehns7tx+tx9WOCIHGuWTXaCvzLjRkaB6MmfW8tzqKxd5OtzNKNfNvqm4udtSqk7w == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduiedrheeigdeflecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgesthdtre dtreertdenucfhrhhomheptfgrnhguohhmkeefvdcuoehrrghnughomhekfedvsehfrghs thhmrghilhdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieefvedtveelffehudejgfejie ffffehleetfeefheelkeeuheelfeeuleegudffnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptden ucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheprhgrnhguohhmkeefvdesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrd gtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1B6F114C008D; Sat, 25 Jul 2020 21:08:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.3.0-92-g11c785d-fm-20200721.004-g11c785d5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <26c53489-7683-4b40-bf24-b910af5a9a78@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20200724022807.D9E1E18C073@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 21:08:16 -0400 From: Random832 To: TUHS Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [TUHS] V6 Console IO X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, at 11:31, Richard Salz wrote: > Wasn't there an issue that v7 atty used stdin and BSD used stdout? v7 uses stdout, but system iii and v use stdin. oddly enough, later research unix appears to unconditionally open /dev/tty, making the redirection trick entirely unavailable.