From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30927 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2020 00:54:02 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Dec 2020 00:54:02 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D39C394500; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 10:53:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67EC93D34; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 10:53:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6A4FA93D34; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 10:53:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cesium.clock.org (cesium.clock.org [157.22.10.65]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8D6193D28 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 10:53:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cesium.clock.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cesium.clock.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059D9CC23E; Wed, 9 Dec 2020 16:53:16 -0800 (PST) From: "Erik E. Fair" In-reply-to: <20201210002916.GH3303@mcvoy.com> References: <1479.1607559546@hop.toad.com> To: Larry McVoy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:53:16 -0800 Message-ID: <28537.1607561596@cesium.clock.org> Subject: Re: [TUHS] Cole's Slaw X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I bet your backups across the gigabit switch to your NAS are (small) incrementals. You'll care about having 10gigE when you try a restore from backup. We have a very persistent problem with storage capacity versus I/O bandwidth, = which I metaphor as "swimming pools of data, which we fill & drain with garden = hoses." How many terabytes of stable storage do you have at home? Further, LANs have always lagged local I/O bandwidth (across PCI, PCIe, etc), = independent of the nastiness introduced by latency and less-than-ideal data = transfer protocols. Unix "diskless" workstations were only tolerable because = the disks were still expensive and there were good reasons to share. Erik