My understanding is all the WE IP was retained through the Alcatel-Lucent mergers and is now owned by Nokia. That would include all the 3Bx systems and WE32k. -A On 2023-09-10 21:11, segaloco via TUHS wrote: > Hello folks, I'm here today with a question that sprung off of some > 3B20 research. > > When 1984 happened and ATTIS rose from the ashes of former Bell System > computing efforts, presumably ATTIS received all IP rights from Western > Electric for 3B processors, WE32000, and so on, and continued to sell > related products through to the 3B2 line. Is this the case, is ATTIS > the formal recipient of both computing software *and* hardware IPs > after the breakup? > > Given that, plus subsequent market flow, "old AT&T" scooped up and > paraded around in effigy by SBC, other old Bell stuff cannibalized by > other RBOCs, spinoffs of stuff to Novell, then Caldera/SCO on the other > side...who all wound up with the hardware IPs? The story as it > "concludes" concerning UNIX is of course tied up in all the subsequent > lawsuits, what with Novell and Caldera conflicts on ownership, transfer > to the Open Group, so on and so forth, and SCO and progeny wind up with > the Sys V "trunk." > > Is there a clear, current owner of these WECo hardware IPs, or have > those waters grown even murkier than those of UNIX in the times after > AT&T proper? > > Thanks everyone! > > - Matt G. > > P.S. As an aside (even though it's the more directly UNIX thing...) is > anything after SVR4 developments that would've involved the same folks > as were working up to that point in the USL group? Or did the transfer > of System V to Novell also involve their own in house folks starting to > take it over, then over to SCO, is there anything post SVR4 (4.2, 5, > UnixWare stuff) that would even remotely be considered the logical next > step by the same folks that engineered SVR4, or was it basically just > another face in the crowd of "UNIX " when USL wasn't involved > anymore? Probably not the first time this has been asked either so to a > finer point I'm basically fishing for whether anything post the initial > SVR4 releases in the early 90s is generally considered "pure" in any > way or if the Bell streams pretty much terminate with Research V10 and > SVR4, (and IX) at the turn of the 90s.