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From: Mary Ann Horton <mah@mhorton.net>
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Reaction to the 3B2 at Bell Labs
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2022 18:50:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <29be0075-e06e-0db9-1537-b8939fa019ed@mhorton.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8f278bf8-de57-4e77-a3b8-d007d7c3a446@app.fastmail.com>

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You asked for the reaction of people in Bell Labs. I've seen reaction 
from Research, but there was also the Development part of the labs.

I was in Columbus with a lot of OSS projects. Ours (Medis) was typical 
in our reaction.

The 3B20 Duplex was designed for Telco central offices. It ran on 48V 
and had Delco car batteries as a UPS. That was fine for the telcos.

The 3B20 Simplex was a less fault tolerant version, intended to compete 
with the Vax 11/780. Nobody wanted it.

The 3B15 was chest freezer size, cheaper, to compete with the Vax 
11/750. Nobody wanted it.

The 3B2 in its various sizes was a desktop micro, intended to compete 
with a Sun server. It had possibilities. It had Datakit, and later 
TCP/IP. You could connect a Blit to it, and later the 5620. We were told 
to use it. "Eat your own dog food."  None of us liked it, but we made do.

I was delighted when I transferred to the computer center and got to 
order Suns for desktop use. We still ordered 3B2s for our "att" email 
gateways.

Incidently, I won a 3B1 in a raffle in 1986. That was a different beast, 
68K based, the UNIX PC built by Convergent. I used it for Stargate and 
the UUCP Zone. It had a GUI but the screen and resolution were too small 
to really be useful. I still have one in my garage.

Thanks,

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On 11/26/22 10:46, Seth Morabito wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm giving a presentation on the AT&T 3B2 at a local makerspace next month, and while I've been preparing the talk I became curious about an aspect that I don't know has been discussed elsewhere.
>
> I'm well aware that the 3B2 was something of a market failure with not much penetration into the wider commercial UNIX space, but I'm very curious to know more about what the reaction was at Bell Labs. When AT&T entered the computer hardware market after the 1984 breakup, I get the impression that there wasn't very much interest in any of it at Bell Labs, is that true?
>
> Can anyone recall what the general mood was regarding the 3B2 (and the 7300 and the 6300, I suppose!)
>
> -Seth

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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-26 18:46 [TUHS] " Seth Morabito
2022-11-26 19:18 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2022-11-26 20:04   ` Seth Morabito
2022-11-26 20:42     ` Rob Pike
2022-11-26 21:46       ` Clem Cole
2022-11-26 23:00         ` Marc Donner
2022-11-26 23:23           ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-26 23:47             ` Dan Cross
2022-11-27  0:17               ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-27  4:43                 ` Phil Budne
2022-11-27 14:51                   ` John P. Linderman
2022-11-27 15:29                     ` arnold
2022-11-27 16:11                     ` Ron Natalie
2022-11-27 16:59                       ` Warner Losh
2022-11-27 18:59                       ` arnold
2022-11-27 20:45                         ` Rob Pike
2022-11-28 18:53                     ` William Corcoran
2022-11-28 20:59                       ` Kenneth Goodwin
2022-11-28 22:33                         ` ron minnich
2022-11-28 22:43                           ` Marc Donner
2022-11-29  1:49                             ` Alan Glasser
2022-12-01  6:10                               ` Kevin Bowling
2022-12-01  8:30                                 ` Andrew Hume
2022-12-01  8:53                                   ` arnold
2022-12-01  9:19                                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2022-12-01 12:25                                       ` Brad Spencer
2022-12-01 10:00                                     ` Andrew Hume
2022-12-01 10:17                                       ` arnold
2022-11-27 14:53                   ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-26 19:21 ` Douglas McIlroy
2022-11-29 11:33 ` alan
2022-11-30  2:50 ` Mary Ann Horton [this message]

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