From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 2889249b for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 18:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 069E29C620; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 04:34:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0849B513; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 04:34:40 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=kilonet.net header.i=@kilonet.net header.b="VevB31FN"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B263B9B513; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 04:34:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from p3plsmtpa09-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.234]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B42D93D74 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 04:34:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from medusa.kilonet.net ([72.69.223.115]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPA id ZJC0in1nzaAzhZJC1isReG; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 11:34:37 -0700 Received: from [199.89.231.101] (ender.kilonet.net [199.89.231.101]) by medusa.kilonet.net (8.14.8/8.15.1) with ESMTP id xAPIYaXL011383; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 13:34:36 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kilonet.net; s=default; t=1574706876; bh=NH/r/dieMCs+R5GUtSZlcjSMqYKBSJdD+Z9V8nmPfPk=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=VevB31FNYAhd9JXRO9GcEkMA0bcP30ZXMcrH2XSIVAdhBn8ZPwqHIb1Qi+GkKXePY h98FuHjqkLRO4bGWwyePmsU+xz++ElGx2CuLzzjVgq3MPSTrS+cUUPLWD++z6fFRZa 8zRYDUmaGb6W9mfkXSUrNFLQeepreV6z0hwwSQQc= To: Larry McVoy References: <20191124225239.GG18200@mcvoy.com> <20191125032404.GM18200@mcvoy.com> <0a6fb097-fe79-1633-0205-1c45f0a56953@bitsavers.org> <96b55e5e-4b05-f7b7-c2ae-efdae7c18b2f@kilonet.net> <20191125174515.GY18200@mcvoy.com> From: Arthur Krewat Message-ID: <320e0de3-3bb5-4839-c209-1947efc89fdb@kilonet.net> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 13:34:33 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191125174515.GY18200@mcvoy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfHgpAA9d4BcGkFpdYpw//q9+R0oiFnONUnik9T0U2nWuOiCWAzydVV5jh2YWf4Y5kd7YobNma32hrHUgu1iAhEAeIW3j0Zup4hfQsY0ds/YjFIc50DWW Zq9ZjN7t/rSfhhU+ubfRGCyya83BEZL8YosKE8+64iR+NZ42AMZbwYAC5lLpGtvk9vayuwv8AfXdOZJZ6YQKteFDvTpXwA6LbuA= Subject: Re: [TUHS] Someone wants to use an exabyte X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 11/25/2019 12:45 PM, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 12:40:22PM -0500, Arthur Krewat wrote: >> PS: DAT 4mm tape drives, especially whatever Sun was using, were awful. > It's no secret that I enjoyed my years at Sun, but I can't defend these > drives, I had the same experience. When I look back on it, the only > tapes that I remember being reliable where the 9 track reel to reel > and the QIC-150. Once it got to GB sized tapes, everything seemed > like crap. > The Exabyte 5GB and up stuff was pretty good. LTOs, after having worked with them for the past 13 years, I can definitely say, are quit awesome. DLT tapes and especially robots, well, it took HP about 5 years to get the firmware right for a certain robot, the model of which, I don't recall ... art k.