From: mah@mhorton.net (Mary Ann Horton)
Subject: [TUHS] attachments: MIME and uuencode
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 16:35:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <34f2acb2-d104-ffde-c36e-4cc14905fe21@mhorton.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2O4155yUOB5vRj27osCQCbbOazJx=s+j2820U0VBfW-mA@mail.gmail.com>
That's interesting, Clem. It would be useful to date the real date of
the first email attachment sent. Right now the only firm date we have
is 6/1/80. Do you have any old email or copy of uuencode that could
establish an earlier date?
Thanks,
Mary Ann
On 03/12/2017 10:42 AM, Clem Cole wrote:
> I think it might actually predates 6/1/80 by 6-9 months because I was
> at Tek a year earlier and you and I started corresponding that first
> summer I was at Tek. I remember that you had sent me a copy of it
> shortly after you wrote it. So I think there is a chance that that
> might be a slightly later version.
>
> Clem
>
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Mary Ann Horton <mah at mhorton.net
> <mailto:mah at mhorton.net>> wrote:
>
> I just heard from a historian named Piotr Klaban with an
> interesting historical sidelight.
>
> Apparently today 3/11/17 is being publicized as the 25th
> anniversary of the email attachment, citing Nat Borenstein's
> MIME. Piotr points out that uuencode predates MIME, and he's right.
>
> I checked and, while I don't have any email archives from that
> time frame at Berkeley, I was able to find the 4BSD archive on
> minnie that dates the uuencode.1c man page at 6/1/80. We didn't
> call them attachments back then, just sending binary files by
> email. (Prior to then it was common to just include the text of
> the file raw in the email, which only worked for ASCII files.) It
> was a few years later when cc:Mail and Microsoft Mail started
> calling uuencoded files embedded in email "attachments".
>
> When MIME came out in 1992 I became a champion of SMTP/MIME as a
> standard - it was a big improvement. But uuencod predated MIME by
> 12 years.
>
> Mary Ann
>
>
>
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-11 19:07 Mary Ann Horton
2017-03-11 23:01 ` Paul Winalski
2017-03-11 23:05 ` Mary Ann Horton
2017-03-12 1:14 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-12 6:28 ` jsteve
2017-03-12 23:41 ` Gregg Levine
2017-03-13 0:00 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-13 1:59 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-12 23:43 ` Mary Ann Horton
2017-03-12 21:10 ` Dave Horsfall
[not found] ` <12de3888-3a82-4a8c-9177-50e6cb4cb931.maildroid@localhost>
2017-03-19 2:34 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-12 13:53 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-12 17:42 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-12 23:35 ` Mary Ann Horton [this message]
2017-03-13 0:07 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-13 0:09 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-13 0:11 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-12 15:10 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-12 18:13 Doug McIlroy
2017-03-12 18:22 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-12 18:26 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-13 0:34 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-13 1:28 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-13 5:39 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-13 11:37 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-13 20:21 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-13 22:14 ` Doug McIlroy
2017-03-14 10:49 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-12 18:33 ` Paul Winalski
2017-03-13 5:58 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-12 18:57 Andy Valencia
2017-03-12 20:04 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-12 21:34 ` Random832
2017-03-12 22:12 ` Noel Chiappa
2017-03-13 14:58 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-03-13 21:56 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-14 10:33 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-16 18:52 ` Michael Kjörling
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