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From: toby@telegraphics.com.au (Toby Thain)
Subject: [TUHS] Happy birthday, Niklaus Wirth!
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 22:10:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <384ec24d-bb53-18a2-b90f-f47d897de67d@telegraphics.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FF2CBAAF-5B09-457C-B55A-511041CEB3C1@ccc.com>

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On 2018-02-15 8:06 PM, Clem cole wrote:
> The whole reason VM was developed at UCB was because Ernie (the
> original) Vax was funded to develop the ability to port MacLisp and more
> importantly Macsyma from ITS.  
> V32’s static address space was not going to work. 
> 
> 
> Btw the program we used to debug the VM system on the original mc500 was
> macsyma’s competition, sms (which would later become wolfram).
> 

You probably meant "SMP", built by Wolfram and others at Caltech:
http://www.stephenwolfram.com/publications/smp-symbolic-manipulation-program/

It sounds like Mathematica probably did not _directly_ derive from SMP
due to a court ruling.

  "A dispute with the administration over the intellectual property
rights regarding SMP—patents, copyright, and faculty involvement in
commercial ventures—eventually caused him to resign from Caltech.
SMP was further developed and marketed commercially by Inference Corp.
of Los Angeles during 1983–1988."

Curiously, the above text has been copied and pasted verbatim all
over the web and it's not clear where it originated. "SMP was
essentially Version Zero of the more ambitious Mathematica system" is
also all over the web including Wikipedia.



> In both cases the idea was to ensure the memory system was being exercised. 

Nowadays we'd just run gcc :)

--Toby


> 
> Clem
> 
> 
> Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not
> quite. 
> ...


  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-16  3:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-14 21:06 Dave Horsfall
2018-02-14 21:12 ` Clem Cole
2018-02-14 22:15   ` George Michaelson
2018-02-14 23:37   ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-14 21:24 ` Toby Thain
2018-02-16  0:01   ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-16  0:51     ` Dan Cross
2018-02-16  1:06       ` Clem cole
2018-02-16  3:10         ` Toby Thain [this message]
2018-02-16 13:36           ` Clem Cole
2018-02-16  1:18       ` Larry McVoy
2018-02-16  1:55         ` George Michaelson
2018-02-16  1:56         ` Lawrence Stewart
2018-02-16  2:38           ` Dan Cross
2018-02-16  2:41             ` Larry McVoy
2018-02-16  2:51               ` Dan Cross
2018-02-16  2:56                 ` George Michaelson
2018-02-16  2:51               ` [TUHS] Clueless programmers - was " Toby Thain
2018-02-16  2:55                 ` Larry McVoy
2018-02-16 10:26               ` [TUHS] " Tim Bradshaw
2018-02-16  1:25       ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-04-24  0:59         ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-04-24  3:26           ` Dave Horsfall
2018-04-24  4:31           ` Dan Stromberg
2018-04-24 13:42             ` Clem Cole
2018-02-16  2:09       ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-16  2:31         ` Toby Thain
2018-02-16 10:01         ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-02-16 12:10           ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-16 12:37             ` tfb
2018-02-16 13:34               ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-16 14:07                 ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-16 20:13                 ` tfb
2018-02-16  3:17       ` Dan Stromberg
2018-02-14 23:19 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-02-14 23:31   ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-15 17:32     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-02-15 19:18       ` Ian Zimmerman
2018-02-15 20:56         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-02-15 21:31         ` Jeremy C. Reed
2018-02-15  2:30 ` Nemo
2018-02-16  2:19 Noel Chiappa
2018-02-16  2:48 ` Larry McVoy
2018-02-16  4:19   ` Steve Nickolas
2018-02-16 11:27   ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-02-16 15:45     ` Nemo
     [not found] <mailman.1.1518746401.1018.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2018-02-16  2:40 ` Paul McJones
2018-02-16 13:42 Noel Chiappa
2018-02-16 21:02 ` Tim Bradshaw
     [not found] <mailman.22.1518790085.20342.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2018-02-16 17:40 ` Paul McJones
2018-02-16 19:24   ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-18 20:50 Norman Wilson
2018-02-19  0:28 ` Dave Horsfall

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