[pups] 2.11 BSD image booting

[pups] 2.11 BSD image booting

[Laurent Canet]

> > In the same rut as Andy Valencia:
> > I have tried booting the 2.11 BSD distribution that was in the boot images
> > directory, it has something like 9 disc pack images, and a script to boot it
> > with Supnik. Well, it boots all right, but I can't access most of the
> > filesystem, just the root, and even there most of the files seem corrupt. It
> > gets even worse when I try to shut it down. It will not even boot back up
> > after I shut it down in the emulator.
> 
> I think all the 2.11BSD disk images in Boot_Images are suspect.
> 
I ran the 2.11bsd_on_rl02 without problems on bob supnik's emulator. (you need to issue a mount -a command after booting in order to mount the 4 RL02 disk and the 5 RK packs in correct places)

I also ran the 2.11_rp_unknown on bob supnik's emulator and on p11.
It worked fine except that password files were corrupted (and contained unknown passwords)
So I replaced /etc/passwd*; /etc/master.passwd; /bin/passwd and /etc/mkpasswd (which was no present) with the files of the RL distribution

Now it works very good, on p11 emulator under linux 2.2 with networking support.

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>> 2.) Can it be done without a tape? If so, has anybody pulled it off?

>	A ~32mb disk is going to be very tight for any 2BSD system.  V7 will
>	fit I think.

But does V7 have a MSCP disk driver?  Recommending to someone that all they
have to do is write a driver when they don't even have a running machine yet
is, IMHO, a bit optimistic :-).

Of course, under the Mentec PDP-11 hobbyist program he could install
RT-11 or RSX-11 or MicroRSTS on such a machine quite nicely from a bunch
of RX50 or RX33 floppies he made from the Mentec CD-ROM's.

>> 3.) Are there any utilities, either DOS or UNIX/Linux/FreeBSD based, to write
>> and/or format RX50 floppies?

>	Hmmm, I thought John Wilson has some utilities that could do that.

  See ftp://ftp.dbit.com/pub/putr/

How many RX50's would it take to hold a root filesystem dump?  15 or so?
It's not *quite* as cruel as the RX01 root distribution we discussed over
some Pastrami sandwiches a couple of years back.  But it is approaching the
"Wagner Ring cycle on convenient 45's" stage!

>	On the other hand if the controller is an RQDX3 it is possible with
>	some luck (and more hardware skill than I have ;)) hook up a standard
>	5.25" Teac floppy drive.   I don't have the location of the info for
>	that at hand - you might try the alt.sys.pdp11 or vmsnet.pdp-11 
>	newsgroups (lots of knowing folks hang out there).

  See ftp://ftp.spc.edu/third-party-disks.txt

See, it's these sorts of references we need in the PUPS FAQ list.  The
same questions come up every month, I give the same pointers, then everybody
forgets them again, until I answer the same questions the next month :-).

Tim. (shoppa at trailing-edge.com)

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Hi,

is a location known where this may be preserved? This should be
an Algol68S (P.Hibbard) compiler from CMU adapted for V7 Unix in Manitoba.
At least, Andy Walker calls the beast 'Manitoba compiler'. See recent
discussion in comp.lang.misc.

Regards, wbk
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Subject: [pups] Re; Algol 68 for PDP11?
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In article by Wilhelm B. Kloke:
> Hi,
> 
> is a location known where this may be preserved? This should be
> an Algol68S (P.Hibbard) compiler from CMU adapted for V7 Unix in Manitoba.
> At least, Andy Walker calls the beast 'Manitoba compiler'. See recent
> discussion in comp.lang.misc.
> 
> Regards, wbk

Is it freely available or requires a license? Regardless, I'd be happy
to put it in to the PDP-11/Applications area in our Unix Archive.

Cheers,
	Warren

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Hi -

> From: SHOPPA at enterprise.trailing-edge.com
> 
> But does V7 have a MSCP disk driver?  Recommending to someone that all they

	Oops - I messed up there didn't I?  Concentrated so much on the size
	of the disk I forgot about the MSCPness of the device :(

	Ummm, as a matter of fact no it doesn't.  Depending what version 
	of V7 you have it may or may not even have an RL driver.

> How many RX50's would it take to hold a root filesystem dump?  15 or so?

	Oh perhaps 8 or 9.  Using RX33 disks it only took 4 floppies but 
	the RX50 is what, 400kb (about 1/3 that of the RX33).

	It's more like just Siegfried on 45's rather than the entire Ring ;)

>   See ftp://ftp.spc.edu/third-party-disks.txt

	Is ftp.spc.edu still up and running?  I know spc11c.spc.edu is out of
	action and I'm not sure home much longer the systems at SPC.EDU will
	keep running now that Terry's no longer there.

	Steven Schultz
	sms at moe.2bsd.com