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From: Chet Ramey <chet.ramey@case.edu>
To: Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com>, Brad Spencer <brad@anduin.eldar.org>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] AOS and IBM/RT [Re: Amdahl UTS, AIX/370, AIX/ESA
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 11:16:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <397f861b-8684-0938-250c-b929e7710000@case.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEoi9W5Un6Q7bjK_m1j639XiWLScTYE82wPA3sj-n3Rs-=1vnQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/21/19 9:19 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 8:07 AM Brad Spencer <brad@anduin.eldar.org 
> <mailto:brad@anduin.eldar.org>> wrote:
> 
>     For a brief time a long time ago, I used a 4.3BSD based Mt. Xinu, MACH
>     microkernel, OS on the IBM-RT as an alternative to AOS.  Ran well
>     enough, but was disk and memory constrained.  We had source to much of
>     the system (or perhaps all of it, don't remember), but I seem to recall
>     that compiling it was a big pain.  Something like you had to use a
>     specific compiler (perhaps referred to as High C??  hc command perhaps)
>     to compile some of the source.  gcc had a backend for the ROMP
>     processor, but it had a hard time making usable binaries.  I think that
>     some variation of pcc was the usual compiler.  I remember it being
>     pretty stock 4.3BSD with NFS and minus YP/NIS.  We used them mostly as X
>     terminal workstations.
> 
> 
> "High C" (or perhaps "Hi C"? It's been a while...) was the name of the 
> system compiler on AOS; I thought it was installed as `cc`.

"High C", and it was installed as cc and hc.


> Some RT enthusiasts kept those machines running well beyond their prime. 
> Why? I'm not entirely sure; as you say, they were memory and disk 
> constrained. They were also very slow.

I had one running in my basement into the late 90s, with my own self-
maintained kernel. I did a considerable portion of the bash-2.0
development on that box, and my wife wrote all of her doctoral thesis on
it (using a troff macro package I wrote to do APA style formatting). It 
didn't make the cut when I moved from that house. Why did I have it?
Because it was free, and it did what I needed.


-- 
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
		 ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU    chet@case.edu    http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-21 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-03 21:05 [TUHS] " Kevin Bowling
2019-11-03 23:29 ` Dennis Boone
2019-11-04  0:06   ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-04  1:29   ` Dennis Boone
2019-11-04  1:58     ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-04  3:39 ` Gregg Levine
2019-11-04  4:49   ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-04 15:32   ` Adam Thornton
2019-11-05 16:21   ` Ronald Natalie
2019-11-05 18:04     ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 19:22       ` ron
2019-11-05 17:30   ` Clem Cole
2019-11-05 18:07     ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 18:15       ` Clem Cole
2019-11-05 19:03       ` Christopher Browne
2019-11-05 19:12         ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 19:26           ` SPC
2019-11-05 19:28             ` SPC
2019-11-05 20:26               ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 20:10         ` Clem Cole
2019-11-05 20:42           ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 21:11             ` Clem Cole
2019-11-05 22:11     ` [TUHS] one element of one of M factions of N companies [Re: " Charles H Sauer
2019-11-06  0:06       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-06  3:36         ` Charles H. Sauer
2019-11-06  7:59           ` [TUHS] AOS and IBM/RT " SPC
2019-11-06 15:51             ` Charles H Sauer
2019-11-07 22:40               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-11-08  4:39                 ` Jason Stevens
2019-11-21  6:26             ` Al Kossow
2019-11-21 11:58               ` Dan Cross
2019-11-21 13:07                 ` Brad Spencer
2019-11-21 14:19                   ` Dan Cross
2019-11-21 16:16                     ` Chet Ramey [this message]
2019-11-21 20:53                       ` Dan Cross
2019-11-21 16:43                     ` greg travis
2019-11-21 19:41                       ` arnold
2019-11-21 20:21                         ` Jon Steinhart
2019-11-21 17:33                   ` Charles H Sauer
2019-11-21 17:36                     ` Dan Cross
2019-11-21 18:11                     ` Brad Spencer
2019-11-21 17:29                 ` Charles H Sauer
2019-11-22 20:38                 ` Al Kossow
2019-11-06 20:28 Pat Barron
2019-11-06 20:31 Pat Barron
2019-11-21 19:53 Noel Chiappa
2019-11-21 20:08 ` Clem Cole
2019-11-23  4:40   ` Gregg Levine
2019-11-23 12:51     ` Clem Cole

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