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From: pechter@gmail.com (William Pechter)
Subject: [TUHS] Determining what was on a tape back in the day
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:35:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3a7416ad-b695-77bc-92c3-d37e6fddccc1@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.21.1711211010380.780@aneurin.horsfall.org>

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Dave Horsfall wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, Random832 wrote:
>
>> For whatever it's worth, the tm(4) and ht(4) manpages from V5 onward
>> say "seeks have their usual meaning", and both drivers provide a
>> 'non-raw' device which is a block device and (according to the
>> manual) only supports tapes consisting of 512-byte records - the BUGS
>> section mentions that the raw device, conversely, does *not* support
>> seeking.
>
> Thank you; I dimly recall that seeks were implemented by the driver
> keeping track of whichever block was under the head, and skipping
> forwards or backwards accordingly, with simple arithmetic. I no longer
> have access to those sources, but we at UNSW certainly modified Unix
> rather heavily, so if that capability is not in the distributed
> version then it means that we modified it; this was over 30 years ago...
>
> It bloody well worked as a read-only file system; I take great umbrage
> at the implication that I am a liar, and I'm the sort of obstreperous
> bastard who neither forgives not forgets...
>
I know that a read-only filesystem for installs is possible.  Pyramid
Technologies used a tape install filesystem called ROFS...guess what
that stands for...

We used it on both cartridge (QIC-150 iirc) and 9 track magtapes... So
there's no special type of drive needed.
It was created by dd-ing  a chrooted specially constructed file tree
(IIRC).   I constructed special ones at my
site with all the site specific info (passwords, groups, etc) on it for
emergency recovery.

It was used for their OS/x (BSD-SysV dual universe for their Risc CPU)
and DCOSx (SVR4 port to Mips R3000).

Bill


  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-20 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-19 13:41 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-19 14:55 ` Clem cole
2017-11-19 21:00   ` William Corcoran
2017-11-19 21:19     ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-19 22:00       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-19 22:38         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-11-19 22:40         ` Ronald Natalie
2017-11-19 23:41           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-20  1:02             ` Ronald Natalie
2017-11-20  1:18               ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-20 18:12                 ` Random832
2017-11-20 23:22                   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-20 23:35                     ` William Pechter [this message]
2017-11-21  0:01                     ` Ron Natalie
2017-11-20 19:02   ` Paul Winalski
2017-11-19 14:55 ` Will Senn
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-11-20 19:42 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-20 17:00 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-20 16:01 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-20 17:37 ` Will Senn
2017-11-19 20:46 Steve Simon
2017-11-19 18:45 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-19 17:49 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-19 18:35 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-18 19:23 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-18 21:32 ` Will Senn
2017-11-18 21:49   ` Warren Toomey
2017-11-18 18:34 Noel Chiappa
2017-11-18 18:37 ` Ronald Natalie
2017-11-18 18:40   ` Ronald Natalie
2017-11-18 21:51   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-18 21:07 ` Will Senn
2017-11-18 22:53   ` Clem Cole
2017-11-19  1:47     ` Will Senn
2017-11-18 16:39 Will Senn
2017-11-18 18:57 ` Clem Cole
2017-11-18 20:03   ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-18 22:37     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-11-18 23:16       ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-18 23:35         ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-19  0:35           ` Steve Nickolas
2017-11-19  0:42             ` Don Hopkins
2017-11-19  1:04               ` Clem cole
2017-11-19 16:20                 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-11-20  2:33         ` Lawrence Stewart
2017-11-18 21:26   ` Will Senn
2017-11-18 22:39     ` Clem Cole

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