* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
@ 2024-08-13 18:57 Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-08-14 6:38 ` Dan Cross
2024-08-14 8:05 ` Wesley Parish
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From: Bakul Shah via TUHS @ 2024-08-13 18:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Cross; +Cc: TUHS
On Aug 13, 2024, at 6:48 AM, Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I thought some may appreciate the linked photo: Unix spotted near Mumbai Central Railway Station, Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/acTTsfvYt5suP4wS6
A lot of shells under that Unix umbrella!
Coconut water + its jelly like flesh can be quite refreshing
on a hot Mumbai day. Did you try any?
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-13 18:57 [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai Bakul Shah via TUHS
@ 2024-08-14 6:38 ` Dan Cross
2024-08-14 12:49 ` Will Senn
2024-08-14 8:05 ` Wesley Parish
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From: Dan Cross @ 2024-08-14 6:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bakul Shah; +Cc: TUHS
On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 2:57 PM Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org> wrote:
> On Aug 13, 2024, at 6:48 AM, Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I thought some may appreciate the linked photo: Unix spotted near Mumbai Central Railway Station, Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India.
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/acTTsfvYt5suP4wS6
>
> A lot of shells under that Unix umbrella!
>
> Coconut water + its jelly like flesh can be quite refreshing
> on a hot Mumbai day. Did you try any?
Of course! We had some just yesterday, and will again today.
As Groggy noted, the husk may look a little worse for wear, but the
coconuts themselves are quite fresh.
- Dan C.
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-13 18:57 [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-08-14 6:38 ` Dan Cross
@ 2024-08-14 8:05 ` Wesley Parish
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From: Wesley Parish @ 2024-08-14 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tuhs
In Papua New Guinea, where I grew up, kulaus - young coconuts whose
flesh hadn't hardened yet into what gets dried and sold as copra - were
prized for that reason.
Wesley Parish
On 14/08/24 06:57, Bakul Shah via TUHS wrote:
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2024, at 6:48 AM, Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I thought some may appreciate the linked photo: Unix spotted near Mumbai Central Railway Station, Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India.
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/acTTsfvYt5suP4wS6
> A lot of shells under that Unix umbrella!
>
> Coconut water + its jelly like flesh can be quite refreshing
> on a hot Mumbai day. Did you try any?
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-14 6:38 ` Dan Cross
@ 2024-08-14 12:49 ` Will Senn
2024-08-14 14:52 ` Tom Lyon
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Will Senn @ 2024-08-14 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Cross, Bakul Shah; +Cc: TUHS
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On 8/14/24 01:38, Dan Cross wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 2:57 PM Bakul Shah<bakul@iitbombay.org> wrote:
>> On Aug 13, 2024, at 6:48 AM, Dan Cross<crossd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I thought some may appreciate the linked photo: Unix spotted near Mumbai Central Railway Station, Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India.
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/acTTsfvYt5suP4wS6
>> A lot of shells under that Unix umbrella!
>>
>> Coconut water + its jelly like flesh can be quite refreshing
>> on a hot Mumbai day. Did you try any?
> Of course! We had some just yesterday, and will again today.
>
> As Groggy noted, the husk may look a little worse for wear, but the
> coconuts themselves are quite fresh.
>
> - Dan C.
The vendor's got several kinds available in that cart, not just husks
and not just fresh. I prefer fresh, but the slightly fermented ones are
good too. I grew up on coconut and sugar cane. In India, they're better
in Bangalore/Chennai. Delhi has the brown ones we're used to in the
states, mostly. Here in Texas, I can only get sugar cane over in the
Asian part of town. Coconut's available, but it's a pale reflection of
fresh and the brown's only good for cooking and candy bars.
I wonder if there's any connection with Unix and coconuts aside from
this umbrella?
Will
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-14 12:49 ` Will Senn
@ 2024-08-14 14:52 ` Tom Lyon
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From: Tom Lyon @ 2024-08-14 14:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Will Senn; +Cc: Bakul Shah, TUHS
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I'm imagining a Venn diagram featuring 'shell' and 'bash'.
On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 7:46 AM Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/14/24 01:38, Dan Cross wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 2:57 PM Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org> <bakul@iitbombay.org> wrote:
>
> On Aug 13, 2024, at 6:48 AM, Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com> <crossd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I thought some may appreciate the linked photo: Unix spotted near Mumbai Central Railway Station, Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India.https://photos.app.goo.gl/acTTsfvYt5suP4wS6
>
> A lot of shells under that Unix umbrella!
>
> Coconut water + its jelly like flesh can be quite refreshing
> on a hot Mumbai day. Did you try any?
>
> Of course! We had some just yesterday, and will again today.
>
> As Groggy noted, the husk may look a little worse for wear, but the
> coconuts themselves are quite fresh.
>
> - Dan C.
>
> The vendor's got several kinds available in that cart, not just husks and
> not just fresh. I prefer fresh, but the slightly fermented ones are good
> too. I grew up on coconut and sugar cane. In India, they're better in
> Bangalore/Chennai. Delhi has the brown ones we're used to in the states,
> mostly. Here in Texas, I can only get sugar cane over in the Asian part of
> town. Coconut's available, but it's a pale reflection of fresh and the
> brown's only good for cooking and candy bars.
>
> I wonder if there's any connection with Unix and coconuts aside from this
> umbrella?
>
> Will
>
>
>
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-14 0:12 ` George Michaelson
@ 2024-08-14 19:01 ` Paul Guertin
0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Paul Guertin @ 2024-08-14 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tuhs
Unix roofing company in Montreal:
https://toitureunix.com/
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-13 22:35 ` segaloco via TUHS
@ 2024-08-14 0:55 ` Skip Tavakkolian
0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Skip Tavakkolian @ 2024-08-14 0:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: segaloco; +Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society
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I keep my Glenda in a UNIX box:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/yozuWteeEhNehJxE9
On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 3:35 PM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 13th, 2024 at 11:15 AM, arnold@skeeve.com <
> arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
>
> > BWK certainly does --- there are some pictures in his memoirs, including
> > some Unix pens I found in Israel and sent to him, many, many moons ago.
> >
> > Clem Cole clemc@ccc.com wrote:
> >
> > > Outstanding. IIRC Dennis used to have a collection of unices people
> sent
> > > him. Some of them were pretty interesting. The logo on thet umbrella
> > > makes me think that was one he had, but I can not tell you what it was
> > > from. FWIW: The only one I found is a tube of super glue:
> > >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CIhuRZl5dnI7yNo5pBO3PWh1gI_OLVAk/view?usp=sharing
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 9:48 AM Dan Cross crossd@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > I thought some may appreciate the linked photo: Unix spotted near
> Mumbai
> > > > Central Railway Station, Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India.
> > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/acTTsfvYt5suP4wS6
> > > >
> > > > - Dan C.
>
> The relevant pages on dmr's Bell Labs page:
>
> https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/otherunix.html
>
> I think of his collection of "diverse" UNIX variants whenever I see
> something particularly out of place in an auction search for UNIX stuff.
> Among other things, UNIX is a popular abbreviation for unisex, so I often
> find myself combing through auctions for tshirts and shoes while trying to
> find computing history...
>
> - Matt G.
>
> P.S. Lumping in the bwk memoirs plug, purchased a copy not too long ago
> and I found it a great read, certainly a good starting place for anyone
> first dipping their toes into UNIX lore.
>
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-14 0:03 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2024-08-14 0:12 ` George Michaelson
@ 2024-08-14 0:13 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2024-08-14 0:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Will Senn, segaloco, tuhs
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On Wednesday, 14 August 2024 at 2:03:54 +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote in <ZrvzM1vdHU8LjkkO@hydra.lemis.com>:
>>
>> One that's missing there is one I saw in Frankfurt (Main) in the late
>> 1980s: a car rental company called "Unix rent". Unfortunately I never
>
> Hmm but there is one with identical logo, only from Düsseldorf
> iirc. That's the same logo, no?
I presume so. After 35 years I wouldn't lay my hand in the fire. The
search results pointed to a number of places in Germany. Solingen
seems to have been popular.
And in passing, for today's calendar, we have:
Aug 14 First Unix-based mallet created, 1954
I think we once came to an explanation, but I have forgotten it.
Greg
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-14 0:03 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
@ 2024-08-14 0:12 ` George Michaelson
2024-08-14 19:01 ` Paul Guertin
2024-08-14 0:13 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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From: George Michaelson @ 2024-08-14 0:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society
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Yokohama:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2NN4whKHESoV1NgJ6
https://photos.app.goo.gl/GbB48bAj4mR8sLf18
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-13 23:58 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
@ 2024-08-14 0:03 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2024-08-14 0:12 ` George Michaelson
2024-08-14 0:13 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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From: Steffen Nurpmeso @ 2024-08-14 0:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey; +Cc: Will Senn, segaloco, tuhs
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote in
<ZrvzM1vdHU8LjkkO@hydra.lemis.com>:
|On Tuesday, 13 August 2024 at 9:21:18 -0500, Will Senn wrote:
|> On 8/13/24 08:47, Dan Cross wrote:
|>> I thought some may appreciate the linked photo: Unix spotted near Mumbai
|>> Central Railway Station, Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India.
|>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/acTTsfvYt5suP4wS6
|>>
|> Wow, cool. But those coconuts have seen better days, is it sad that they
|> still trigger a yearning for fresh coconut?
|
|FWIW, that's just the husk. The contents were probably completely OK.
|I'm just wondering how you use a coconut as a mobile phone accessory.
|
|On Tuesday, 13 August 2024 at 22:35:06 +0000, The UNIX Heritage Society \
|wrote:
|>
|> The relevant pages on dmr's Bell Labs page:
|>
|> https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/otherunix.html
|
|One that's missing there is one I saw in Frankfurt (Main) in the late
|1980s: a car rental company called "Unix rent". Unfortunately I never
Hmm but there is one with identical logo, only from Düsseldorf
iirc. That's the same logo, no?
|had a camera with me when I saw it. A Google search brings up a
|number of poor quality links, a few images and
|http://web.deu.edu.tr/berent/unix/otherunix.html , which appears to be
|a modified version of dmr's page.
--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-13 14:21 ` [TUHS] " Will Senn
@ 2024-08-13 23:58 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2024-08-14 0:03 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2024-08-13 23:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Will Senn, segaloco; +Cc: tuhs
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On Tuesday, 13 August 2024 at 9:21:18 -0500, Will Senn wrote:
> On 8/13/24 08:47, Dan Cross wrote:
>> I thought some may appreciate the linked photo: Unix spotted near Mumbai
>> Central Railway Station, Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India.
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/acTTsfvYt5suP4wS6
>>
> Wow, cool. But those coconuts have seen better days, is it sad that they
> still trigger a yearning for fresh coconut?
FWIW, that's just the husk. The contents were probably completely OK.
I'm just wondering how you use a coconut as a mobile phone accessory.
On Tuesday, 13 August 2024 at 22:35:06 +0000, The UNIX Heritage Society wrote:
>
> The relevant pages on dmr's Bell Labs page:
>
> https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/otherunix.html
One that's missing there is one I saw in Frankfurt (Main) in the late
1980s: a car rental company called "Unix rent". Unfortunately I never
had a camera with me when I saw it. A Google search brings up a
number of poor quality links, a few images and
http://web.deu.edu.tr/berent/unix/otherunix.html , which appears to be
a modified version of dmr's page.
Greg
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-13 18:15 ` arnold
@ 2024-08-13 22:35 ` segaloco via TUHS
2024-08-14 0:55 ` Skip Tavakkolian
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: segaloco via TUHS @ 2024-08-13 22:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society
On Tuesday, August 13th, 2024 at 11:15 AM, arnold@skeeve.com <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
> BWK certainly does --- there are some pictures in his memoirs, including
> some Unix pens I found in Israel and sent to him, many, many moons ago.
>
> Clem Cole clemc@ccc.com wrote:
>
> > Outstanding. IIRC Dennis used to have a collection of unices people sent
> > him. Some of them were pretty interesting. The logo on thet umbrella
> > makes me think that was one he had, but I can not tell you what it was
> > from. FWIW: The only one I found is a tube of super glue:
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CIhuRZl5dnI7yNo5pBO3PWh1gI_OLVAk/view?usp=sharing
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 9:48 AM Dan Cross crossd@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > I thought some may appreciate the linked photo: Unix spotted near Mumbai
> > > Central Railway Station, Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India.
> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/acTTsfvYt5suP4wS6
> > >
> > > - Dan C.
The relevant pages on dmr's Bell Labs page:
https://www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/otherunix.html
I think of his collection of "diverse" UNIX variants whenever I see something particularly out of place in an auction search for UNIX stuff. Among other things, UNIX is a popular abbreviation for unisex, so I often find myself combing through auctions for tshirts and shoes while trying to find computing history...
- Matt G.
P.S. Lumping in the bwk memoirs plug, purchased a copy not too long ago and I found it a great read, certainly a good starting place for anyone first dipping their toes into UNIX lore.
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-13 15:03 ` Clem Cole
@ 2024-08-13 18:15 ` arnold
2024-08-13 22:35 ` segaloco via TUHS
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: arnold @ 2024-08-13 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: crossd, clemc; +Cc: tuhs
BWK certainly does --- there are some pictures in his memoirs, including
some Unix pens I found in Israel and sent to him, many, many moons ago.
Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
> Outstanding. IIRC Dennis used to have a collection of unices people sent
> him. Some of them were pretty interesting. The logo on thet umbrella
> makes me think that was one he had, but I can not tell you what it was
> from. FWIW: The only one I found is a tube of super glue:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CIhuRZl5dnI7yNo5pBO3PWh1gI_OLVAk/view?usp=sharing
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 9:48 AM Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I thought some may appreciate the linked photo: Unix spotted near Mumbai
> > Central Railway Station, Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India.
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/acTTsfvYt5suP4wS6
> >
> > - Dan C.
> >
> >
> >
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-13 13:47 [TUHS] " Dan Cross
2024-08-13 14:21 ` [TUHS] " Will Senn
2024-08-13 14:33 ` Ralph Corderoy
@ 2024-08-13 15:03 ` Clem Cole
2024-08-13 18:15 ` arnold
2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Clem Cole @ 2024-08-13 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Cross; +Cc: TUHS
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Outstanding. IIRC Dennis used to have a collection of unices people sent
him. Some of them were pretty interesting. The logo on thet umbrella
makes me think that was one he had, but I can not tell you what it was
from. FWIW: The only one I found is a tube of super glue:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CIhuRZl5dnI7yNo5pBO3PWh1gI_OLVAk/view?usp=sharing
On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 9:48 AM Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought some may appreciate the linked photo: Unix spotted near Mumbai
> Central Railway Station, Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/acTTsfvYt5suP4wS6
>
> - Dan C.
>
>
>
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-13 13:47 [TUHS] " Dan Cross
2024-08-13 14:21 ` [TUHS] " Will Senn
@ 2024-08-13 14:33 ` Ralph Corderoy
2024-08-13 15:03 ` Clem Cole
2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Ralph Corderoy @ 2024-08-13 14:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tuhs
Hi,
Dan wrote:
> I thought some may appreciate the linked photo: Unix spotted near Mumbai
> Central Railway Station, Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/acTTsfvYt5suP4wS6
Their wares: https://unixindia.in
--
Cheers, Ralph.
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* [TUHS] Re: Unix spotted in Mumbai.
2024-08-13 13:47 [TUHS] " Dan Cross
@ 2024-08-13 14:21 ` Will Senn
2024-08-13 23:58 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2024-08-13 14:33 ` Ralph Corderoy
2024-08-13 15:03 ` Clem Cole
2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Will Senn @ 2024-08-13 14:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tuhs
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On 8/13/24 08:47, Dan Cross wrote:
> I thought some may appreciate the linked photo: Unix spotted near
> Mumbai Central Railway Station, Mumbai (Bombay), Maharashtra, India.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/acTTsfvYt5suP4wS6
>
> - Dan C.
>
>
Wow, cool. But those coconuts have seen better days, is it sad that they
still trigger a yearning for fresh coconut?
- will
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