From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17891 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2020 17:26:54 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Nov 2020 17:26:54 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6EAD29D4F1; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 03:26:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049359D4B4; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 03:26:35 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=earthlink.net header.i=@earthlink.net header.b="mUcoa3U/"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B3E689D4E8; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 03:26:18 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 2406 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2020 03:26:15 AEST Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40E7C9D4BE for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 03:26:15 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=earthlink.net; s=dk12062016; t=1604683575; bh=PnnZG34REsNDSK8WMQH7TFIpf5QG2D3EP0aq WkrLOJ8=; h=Received:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace: X-Originating-IP; b=mUcoa3U/iUorMTa89lJQaC0UkyRkwqtRdyAM9sVgzzOKEp xB2vSn9TSc2ywxzkNUEgAOkh1z72uFUXjYAn1k85hBn69XB8KA+hH9BGLWThc8G6FvP t+TDKutiuyXWmHa9r65jXBnFnlYQoQcNVJhT7gjCB9ONOUnqOizc+jRBEdfyJJNOdf9 gm7THTaLSL0S9Q2+0P4UGJLbDCbVpL8kJTggudjNCBOFfzCCnRKAr6z9GAFcJPc3ju0 JHhjPolvr56t+i6SkOhR3DRZPZY2mvPNWfA297MJM+Ap8ieZkaxTiiwrq72KZ1C9JDw 8cyrtWmEC2QSC/fAWP7W21KqL16g== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk12062016; d=earthlink.net; b=Bk4KxNMhM8mxjRsd4DPVhrMeLhkJzF44Z75/kuvgo6KGKtQuUkPl306i5yqPOZIzf1/XoguMz3JsvS91LWgPobE4TYxs/S3sTf0leHQSqbgfIq5eVC4Wr0hNGJ+t2031I02BIDkU3+XwAk4qe7kuRmEufAuDZZG9gLGKwVCEocwJSLNZML7DHX4Gi//aHKkjUgziQNb1Ohj3tfm2pL8ip5rJNs82a4LlaleDHpqgFM+r+cqwNpnP5sAM+Y2sJwaWshSCa2gVPVrf81CiJS5BDD7Qc6QpG6+VNg9W9xjaazs1Hts1iE23zHcrd2gFVEsPW68BmTjQIDdFUxrEtwv18g==; h=Received:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.144.113.94] (helo=joker2.seclark.com) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4) (envelope-from ) id 1kb5V8-0002SO-1J; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 12:26:14 -0500 To: Adam Thornton , Greg 'groggy' Lehey References: <20201106014109.GP26296@mcvoy.com> <20201106063725.GB99027@eureka.lemis.com> <5BE1CBD5-C9EB-45D4-B135-E58BCCCBE38C@gmail.com> From: Stephen Clark Message-ID: <3c54b19d-e604-68eb-2b4b-0b65e9cfb896@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 12:26:13 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5BE1CBD5-C9EB-45D4-B135-E58BCCCBE38C@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-ELNK-Trace: a437fbc6971e80f61aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec791c706f01cb1aeb93a83a21ac72e20e9b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.144.113.94 Subject: Re: [TUHS] The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: sclark46@earthlink.net Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 11/6/20 12:13 PM, Adam Thornton wrote: > I’m going to chime in on pro-80-columns here, because with the text a comfortable size to read (although this is getting less true as my eyes age), I can read an entire 80-column line without having to sweep my eyes back and forth. > > I can’t, and never could, do that at 132. > > As a consequence, I read much, much faster with 80-column-ish text blocks. > > I also think there is something to the “UNIX is verbal” and “UNIX nerds tend to be polyglots often with a surprising amount of liberal arts background of one kind or another,” argument. That may, however, merely be confirmation bias. > > Adam May have had to do with the first terminal commonly used with UNIX. The Model 33 printed on 8.5-inch (220 mm) wide paper, supplied on continuous 5-inch (130 mm) diameter rolls and fed via friction (instead of, e.g., tractor feed). It printed at a fixed 10 characters per inch, and supported 74-character lines,[13] although 72 characters is often commonly stated.