From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 516b206f for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 22:19:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D049B94938; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 08:19:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24914940FA; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 08:18:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F3BEB940FA; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 08:18:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from neener.bl.org (neener.bl.org [50.116.26.109]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B75940F8 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 08:18:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from www.bl.org (neener.bl.org [50.116.26.109]) (authenticated bits=0) by neener.bl.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id wAJMIn4C004005 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:18:49 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:18:49 -0600 From: Michael Parson To: tuhs@tuhs.org Organization: BL dot ORG In-Reply-To: References: <20181117153919.6468B18C073@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <3c7cb03bb23814934ba4ce5735e28b85@bl.org> X-Sender: mparson@bl.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (neener.bl.org [50.116.26.109]); Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:18:56 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [TUHS] man-page style X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 2018-11-18 22:15, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Sun, 18 Nov 2018, Chet Ramey wrote: > >> It's not clear how widespread this is, but on my Mac OS X system, >> emacs key bindings are pervasive. TextEdit, text controls in apps and >> browsers, pretty much everything understands the basic emacs >> keybinding. > > As a Mac user I never noticed that, but I'll admit to using EMACS key > bindings in the various shells, despite being a VI user... A bit like > using CSH at the terminal, but never for scripting :-) I first learned about shell shortcuts from an emacs user, and I briefly considered picking up emacs... Then I found out I could enable vi keybinding in my shell and squashed that impulse. :) The only emacs keybindings I still use in the shell are ^R for searching my history, ^W for deleting words, and occasional use of ^K for killing text to EOL. Other than ^R, I swap between the vi and emacs bindings for those others, just depending on where my cursor is on the line. -- Michael Parson Pflugerville, TX KF5LGQ