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Ip=[14.136.113.162]; Helo=[exchange.superglobalmegacorp.local] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SG2PR0201MB2175 Subject: Re: [TUHS] IBM Mach 3.0 Ports X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --_16BF5066-11E0-4504-8098-CFD5DD4BF634_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I=E2=80=99ve been trying to chase down something usable from CMU Mach for w= ay too long. I think the afs project is largely on auto-pilot for the last= 20+ years, and whatever is accessible is, and whatever isn=E2=80=99t is ei= ther lost or locked up with accounts that have moved on in one way or anoth= er. The only sizable release of Mach of the era is on the 4th CD of the CSRG re= leases. And it=E2=80=99s far from any buildable state, that I could really= see. Forever ago there was an effort to get Mach 4 + Lites running and I did get= it running kind of by accident. I never could rebuild it from source. Ma= ybe I=E2=80=99m just missing something. But it=E2=80=99s not intuitive at = all. I guess it=E2=80=99s like the MT XINU Mach for the i386, basically it= was a thing but no copies seem to have survived. I guess IBM would be scared of people seeing either RS/6000 or the prior RO= MP/RT architecture code, and people running their own OS=E2=80=99s. Much l= ike the MacMach port. I tried asking the MachTen people about buying their= source but they only have binaries on CD. I guess it=E2=80=99s like my on-going struggle with Attachmate trying to ge= t a SYSV license. From: Kevin Bowling Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:05 PM To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Subject: [TUHS] IBM Mach 3.0 Ports Does anyone have these documents or the ports themselves? Or know who to talk to so they can be preserved? https://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/mach/public/FAQ/rs6k_announce Regards, Kevin --_16BF5066-11E0-4504-8098-CFD5DD4BF634_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

I=E2=80=99ve been trying to chase do= wn something usable from CMU Mach for way too long.=C2=A0 I think the afs p= roject is largely on auto-pilot for the last 20+ years, and whatever is acc= essible is, and whatever isn=E2=80=99t is either lost or locked up with acc= ounts that have moved on in one way or another.

 

The only sizable release of Mach of = the era is on the 4th CD of the CSRG releases.=C2=A0 And it=E2= =80=99s far from any buildable state, that I could really see.

 

Forever ago there wa= s an effort to get Mach 4 + Lites running and I did get it running kind of = by accident.=C2=A0 I never could rebuild it from source.=C2=A0 Maybe I=E2= =80=99m just missing something.=C2=A0 But it=E2=80=99s not intuitive at all= .=C2=A0 I guess it=E2=80=99s like the MT XINU Mach for the i386, basically = it was a thing but no copies seem to have survived.

 

I guess IBM would be scared of p= eople seeing either RS/6000 or the prior ROMP/RT architecture code, and peo= ple running their own OS=E2=80=99s.=C2=A0 Much like the MacMach port.=C2=A0= I tried asking the MachTen people about buying their source but they only = have binaries on CD.

 

I guess it=E2=80=99s like my on-going struggle with Attachmate= trying to get a SYSV license.

 

 

From: Kevin Bowling
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:05 PM
To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society
Subject: [TUHS] IBM Ma= ch 3.0 Ports

 

Does anyone have these documents or the ports themselves?=C2=A0 O= r know who

to talk to so they can be preserved?

=

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/mach/public/FAQ/= rs6k_announce

 

Regards,

Kevin

&n= bsp;

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