From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ee99a196 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 21:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 75D929B7E0; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 07:44:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1979C9B729; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 07:43:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 077379B729; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 07:43:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp3.cs.Stanford.EDU (smtp3.cs.stanford.edu [171.64.64.27]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7F0994BBA for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 07:43:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: from solarpost.stanford.edu ([171.64.103.115]:36235) by smtp3.cs.Stanford.EDU with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hm3KQ-0000s9-ME; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 14:43:42 -0700 Received: from [107.135.30.30] (helo=MacBook-Air-4.lan) by solarpost.Stanford.EDU with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1hm3KP-0001nc-9j; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 14:43:41 -0700 To: Paul Winalski References: <27f401d53834$51101140$f33033c0$@ronnatalie.com> <07dffb4b-d9d7-c33d-d0e6-5c26fa0ce6e5@solar.stanford.edu> From: Deborah Scherrer Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <3f4400b9-a243-d86a-11a6-473f0e93adea@solar.stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 14:43:44 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scan-Signature: 6bee508a35d8245455fa42c2dd36c733 Subject: Re: [TUHS] Interactive Systems (was Pcc for 386) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I didn't do this port, so don't know the details. But it was done in the late 70s (I think) and had broad distribution. When I collected various Software Tools versions, I was not able to find the VMS one. Sorry. Deborah On 7/12/19 1:45 PM, Paul Winalski wrote: > On 7/12/19, Deborah Scherrer wrote: >> There was also an extensive port of the Software Tools to VMS, done by >> Joe Sventek at LBNL. Included at the key tools, the shell, pipes, >> everything. Felt completely like Unix. > How did the LBNL Software Tools for VMS implement pipes? I'm curious > because DEC itself did a product in the mid-1980s called DEC Shell > that was a VMS port of the Bourne shell and associated utilities. I > wrote a VMS device driver that implemented pipes as a true VMS > pseudo-device, similar to VMS mailboxes but with true Unix pipe > semantics. > > -Paul W.