From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, LOTS_OF_MONEY,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 24b8c218 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 01:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7C40A94904; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:12:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657AD948E3; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:11:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C2375948E2; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:11:32 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:11:32 AEST Received: from orthanc.ca (orthanc.ca [208.79.93.154]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56192948E1 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:11:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from orthanc.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orthanc.ca (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 09f9090f for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 18:04:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: tuhs@tuhs.org In-reply-to: <20190717151101.GD16562@mcvoy.com> References: <8235a090-c48a-4587-8974-23305233bc33@PU1APC01FT026.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> <3CFC8159-08DD-4647-8CEF-FE8D196AB3C9@ccc.com> <610F6FCB-F24D-4788-953A-83E0E6456622@ccc.com> <017d16e0-3a7d-b3e7-29b8-8a454d78463f@e-bbes.com> <201907170810.x6H8AELx031974@freefriends.org> <20190717151101.GD16562@mcvoy.com> Comments: In-reply-to Larry McVoy message dated "Wed, 17 Jul 2019 08:11:01 -0700." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <76516.1563930291.1@orthanc.ca> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 18:04:52 -0700 Message-ID: <40c9068b4144a3b4@orthanc.ca> Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" >> Sun had a '386 based system in early 90s-ish called the Road Runner. >> I never saw it. It ran SunOS 4.x and I think was discontinued by the >> time Solaris 2.x came along. >Yep, can confirm. I was a fan but the powers that were at Sun at the >time just didn't want competition for SPARC. I have vague memories of the Road Runner. But I also recall, circa 1993, Sun was trying very hard not to sell a '386 port of Solaris that I wanted to get my hands on. At the time I was spinning up a brand new university campus. We were, as all academia were, $$$ constrained. Windows was starting to roll out, but the incoming academics wanted UNIX to run their code on. Sun had just leaked out a 386-based release, but was hiding it from everyone. At the front-end of the campus build, my thoughts were to get this Intel version of SunOS running on the Intel boxes that we knew we had to buy, anyway, because MSDOS and Windows. At the '93 Interop I quickly tracked down the Sun booth and started nailing down all the booth critters to set up a conversation about doing a campus-wide binary license of the 386 port. Both booth shitheads could not be bothered. They only wanted to SPARC the booth babes across the aisle. Does anyone remember the name of that Sun release? I've forgotten now. Meanwhile, we signed up for a BSDi academic source license, and deployed UNIX on every PC that hit the campus. Sun did eventually show up, many months after the campus opening. With a "million dollar" donation. It was a heap of mostly broken workstations that they piled on the floor in the agora for a photo-op. Same gig that AT&T tried when they dumped the 3B4000 on us in Athabasca in 1990 ;-) --lyndon