From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: cpg@aladdin.de (Christian Groessler) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:35:18 +0100 Subject: problems booting 2.11_rp_unknown Message-ID: <412568FB.0081A620.00@saturn.aladdin.de> Hi, (Sorry if this is a FAQ) I'm trying to boot the 2.11_rp_unknown image from Boot_Images. This is what happens: ---------------------- gibbon:/net/scharfzahn/playing/boot_images$ pdp11 PDP-11 simulator V2.3d sim> set cpu 18b sim> att rp0 2.11_rp_unknown sim> boot rp 53Boot from xp(0,0,0) at 0176700 : xp(0,0,0)unix Boot: bootdev=05000 bootcsr=0176700 2.11 BSD UNIX #11: Tue Jan 6 16:57:02 MET 1998 root at pdp11.begemot.com:/usr/src/sys/HIPPON panic: buffers no fs on dev 10/0 dumping to dev 5001 off 512 dump args:EINVAL HALT instruction, PC: 006606 (JSR R5,3162) sim> ---------------------- What am I doing wrong? regards, chris Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA51856 for pups-liszt; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:41:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: from moe.2bsd.com (0 at MOE.2BSD.COM [206.139.202.200]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA51851 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:41:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sms at moe.2bsd.com) Received: (from sms at localhost) by moe.2bsd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12888; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 16:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 16:36:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steven M. Schultz" Message-Id: <200006112336.QAA12888 at moe.2bsd.com> To: cpg at aladdin.de, pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: Re: problems booting 2.11_rp_unknown Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk Hi - > From: "Christian Groessler" > > I'm trying to boot the 2.11_rp_unknown image from Boot_Images. > This is what happens: > > PDP-11 simulator V2.3d > sim> set cpu 18b Try "set cpu 22b" instead. Using 18b tells the simulator you have a 248kb (and 8kb for the I/O page) machine and that is not enough for 2.11 to load and allocate all the resources it needs. > panic: buffers Yep -that panic message says the kernel could not allocate any memory for the buffer cache. I am almost certain that means there is not enough free memory left out of 248kb. > What am I doing wrong? Try telling the emulator to use "22bit" mode. If that still fails let us know. Then it will be time for "Plan B" ;) Steven Schultz sms at moe.2bsd.com Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA52060 for pups-liszt; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:45:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: from saturn.aladdin.de (saturn.aladdin.de [194.123.19.66]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA52056 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:45:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from cpg at aladdin.de) Received: by saturn.aladdin.de(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.2 (693.3 8-11-1998)) id 412568FC.00097079 ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 02:43:06 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AKS From: "Christian Groessler" To: "Steven M. Schultz" cc: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Message-ID: <412568FC.00096F95.00 at saturn.aladdin.de> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 01:37:24 +0100 Subject: Re: problems booting 2.11_rp_unknown Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk On 06/11/2000 11:36:45 PM GMT "Steven M. Schultz" wrote: > >> >> PDP-11 simulator V2.3d >> sim> set cpu 18b > > Try "set cpu 22b" instead. Using 18b tells the simulator you have > a 248kb (and 8kb for the I/O page) machine and that is not enough > for 2.11 to load and allocate all the resources it needs. > >> panic: buffers > > Yep -that panic message says the kernel could not allocate any > memory for the buffer cache. I am almost certain that means > there is not enough free memory left out of 248kb. > >> What am I doing wrong? > > Try telling the emulator to use "22bit" mode. If that still > fails let us know. Then it will be time for "Plan B" ;) Hmm, sorry, it still doesn't work: --------------------- gibbon:/net/scharfzahn/playing/boot_images$ pdp11 PDP-11 simulator V2.3d sim> set cpu 22b sim> att rp0 2.11_rp_unknown sim> boot rp 53Boot from xp(0,0,0) at 0176700 : xp(0,0,0)unix Boot: bootdev=05000 bootcsr=0176700 2.11 BSD UNIX #11: Tue Jan 6 16:57:02 MET 1998 root at pdp11.begemot.com:/usr/src/sys/HIPPON panic: buffers no fs on dev 10/0 dumping to dev 5001 off 512 dump args:EINVAL HALT instruction, PC: 006606 (JSR R5,3162) sim> --------------------- What is "Plan B"? :-) regards, chris Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA52223 for pups-liszt; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:41:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: from moe.2bsd.com (0 at MOE.2BSD.COM [206.139.202.200]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA52219 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:41:46 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sms at moe.2bsd.com) Received: (from sms at localhost) by moe.2bsd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13674; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:33:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steven M. Schultz" Message-Id: <200006120133.SAA13674 at moe.2bsd.com> To: cpg at aladdin.de, sms at moe.2bsd.com Subject: Re: problems booting 2.11_rp_unknown Cc: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk > From: "Christian Groessler" > Hmm, sorry, it still doesn't work: > sim> set cpu 22b > sim> att rp0 2.11_rp_unknown > sim> boot rp > What is "Plan B"? :-) Plan B is to specify the amount of memory directly. Simply saying "set cpu 22B" tells the emulator to use 22 bit addressing - but it does not say how much memory the system has (it's possible to have 1mb of memory even though ~4mb is possible). Try using both "set cpu 22B" and "set cpu 2048K" - that worked here. It may well be that only "set cpu 2048K" is actually needed - I didn't try that by itself. Script started on Sun Jun 11 18:30:40 2000 moe.1-> cat f set cpu 22B set cpu 2048K att rp0 rp boot rp moe.2-> pdp11 f PDP-11 simulator V2.3d 53Boot from xp(0,0,0) at 0176700 : : xp(0,0,0)unix Boot: bootdev=05000 bootcsr=0176700 2.11 BSD UNIX #11: Tue Jan 6 16:57:02 MET 1998 root at pdp11.begemot.com:/usr/src/sys/HIPPON attaching lo0 phys mem = 2097152 avail mem = 1668352 user mem = 307200 January 8 06:50:29 init: configure system lp 0 csr 177514 vector 200 attached rl 0 csr 174400 vector 160 attached tm 0 csr 172520 vector 224 attached xp 0 csr 176700 vector 254 attached cn 1 csr 176500 vector 300 skipped: No CSR. cn 2 csr 176510 vector 310 skipped: No CSR. cn 3 csr 176520 vector 320 skipped: No CSR. cn 4 csr 176530 vector 330 skipped: No CSR. erase, kill ^U, intr ^C # halt syncing disks... done halting HALT instruction, PC: 000014 (MOV #1,12456) sim> q Goodbye moe.3-> exit exit Script done on Sun Jun 11 18:30:59 2000 Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA55064 for pups-liszt; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:39:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: from saturn.aladdin.de (saturn.aladdin.de [194.123.19.66]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA55060 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:39:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from cpg at aladdin.de) Received: by saturn.aladdin.de(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.2 (693.3 8-11-1998)) id 412568FC.00505777 ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:37:32 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AKS From: "Christian Groessler" To: "Steven M. Schultz" cc: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Message-ID: <412568FC.005055C9.00 at saturn.aladdin.de> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:34:47 +0100 Subject: Re: problems booting 2.11_rp_unknown Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk On 06/12/2000 01:33:37 AM GMT "Steven M. Schultz" wrote: > > Plan B is to specify the amount of memory directly. Simply saying > "set cpu 22B" tells the emulator to use 22 bit addressing - but it > does not say how much memory the system has (it's possible to have > 1mb of memory even though ~4mb is possible). > > Try using both "set cpu 22B" and "set cpu 2048K" - that worked here. > > It may well be that only "set cpu 2048K" is actually needed - I didn't > try that by itself. It works :-) :-) Thanks for your help! regards, chris Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA55279 for pups-liszt; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:14:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: from lostwithiel.cley.com (lostwithiel.cley.com [212.240.242.98]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA55275 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:14:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from tfb at lostwithiel.cley.com) Received: (from tfb at localhost) by lostwithiel.cley.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id PAA20719 for PUPS at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:11:31 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid (via feedmail 8 I); VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid From: Tim Bradshaw MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14660.61330.622418.671382 at cley.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:11:30 +0100 (BST) To: PUPS at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: Re: PLEASE TAKE THIS ELSEWHERE (was Re: RX50 on RQDX3 on 2.11BSD) In-Reply-To: <20000609152354.A60849 at dragon.nuxi.com> References: <000609165909.20200fd8 at trailing-edge.com> <20000609152354.A60849 at dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk * David O'Brien wrote: > This goes back to the UHS / PUPS discussion. I didn't vote so before, > but maybe it is time to separate the mail for the two. I agree that the > first posts were interesting in the historical insight that could be > gained. But this thread has turned into a rather long hardware > discussion applicable to only a handful of people that have this > hardware. > I do not mean to be mean, but it seems moving this to some PDP-11 list (I > guess one needs to be created) would be possible. Please don't. I love reading discussions of random old bits of hardware, and such discussions have gone on on the PUPS list for a long time. --tim