From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5285 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2020 18:46:31 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Nov 2020 18:46:31 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E57509C21F; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 04:46:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701BE9C204; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 04:46:11 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="oML6cEeF"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 439299C204; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 04:46:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qk1-f179.google.com (mail-qk1-f179.google.com [209.85.222.179]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F9859C203 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 04:46:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qk1-f179.google.com with SMTP id u4so11820997qkk.10 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 10:46:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=X6ScChywo82nKcHwgazpdGma4StKKC694qklO2fBpLg=; b=oML6cEeF878GL4P3v8H9fEU5HpjYwfEf8EhW6WIQmit+jOLhC8sbyRkbI6BoxLMGOs 0z2TysiiiNBd0B2WxOGQX7df0JnxlblwRIrs5pKdMiL1DBpGZG66+llAfY0m2rg1uzkY lAqQbsspnVbPqhqe/k8jbLnmgVl5qZBvqHqY4tj2uOe+LM8OPn189yciJGnk6TF9NoJj GKyvTRel8jhVczr+62xmTIs4aQZF0ECJhDbflWGo1Hn58aUQGmKEUfXpfc2oFMzAh0yE VbBdon4QtHi855im9NNKGMwow4YjG2fQTyPt5N60hLThcET/3GPUH2aLGTAeqm6OcISA sXMg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=X6ScChywo82nKcHwgazpdGma4StKKC694qklO2fBpLg=; b=GpbsE7f0SvVZgx6WN/5eXLbvlRuYkrTxZSAnt3VmXrByjkLG1ip+EdHGp4aUD0/ZLl i+uy4MxCtfIjeMgygWrhm9/WIz6yDI+Qax62HvMlEguQgYFb6VTQk69ga3W6pQN0ftCT w0X5wvvBrUf0WctJrC8RxCIx+/ltBcRaagaOWX+35oMsMWJk0zv5uethUlYi7eVw8s3d IWu9NPrrl2DGgQx/Ch6pXM0DDQC9Xl1O8z6tpbBFN3nRuCNEI3G4bxcOWMKDkJsZ4H16 ipIVVwQEYtQVcIC63a5/X/EFVeptV7VUnReIeSCyaAA8ZG2RYa/4ocmLVBCdA+Vl4fMM fC7A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530CC1svbXsMkXYAvTxUEueBgil9jxb0O6VgDjzV9ickSjc7FiLI o65rPeGRF/AtWapT/rB5/JS+tSLhFlgGRA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxJ5M8fFQLbRNOAaeh4bJfnwZ+hB7b2IlsrM7IQ4bBQn/jc944LKUzT2OmBPaXKu6duMwlKBA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:2017:: with SMTP id c23mr24977566qka.177.1606761965016; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 10:46:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.24] (198.27.14-65.ip.mltn.standardbroadband.ca. [198.27.14.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i203sm15849287qke.49.2020.11.30.10.46.02 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Nov 2020 10:46:04 -0800 (PST) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <8b580c46-ecfb-9383-ed43-08108b3ee7bf@tllds.com> <20201130163753.GB18187@mcvoy.com> From: Nemo Nusquam Message-ID: <4259b67c-e283-3de9-2c41-7defa6a8f9b7@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:46:01 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; SunOS sun4u; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] The UNIX Command Language (1976) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" We seem to be straying into COFF-land. However... On 11/30/20 13:25, John Cowan wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:55 AM Clem Cole > wrote: > > I wish we lived in a troff world but we don't > > Yep > > > I think O'Reilly was the last commercial publisher with a troff > toolchain. Nowadays they accept HTMLBook (their own static subset of > HTML5), DocBook, ASCIIDoc (analogous to Markdown but plain-text > DocBook as opposed to plain-text HTML), Word, and in some cases > InDesign or PDF. I wonder what Tanenbaum does these days? Prefaces of earlier versions of all his texts stated that they were written with troff. (And Springer accepts mostly LaTeX.) N. > John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan > cowan@ccil.org