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List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Rod Bartlett via TUHS Reply-To: Rod Bartlett X-Spam: Yes U.S. Robotics had the best bonuses for filing patents of any company = I've worked for. I think it was $1000 if they decided to file the = patent application and another $1000 when it was granted. I also got an = all expenses paid trip to Barcelona in 1999 for having filed 2 patents = that year. Other companies were not nearly as generous. - Rod > On May 15, 2025, at 5:00=E2=80=AFPM, Stuff Received = wrote: >=20 > On 2025-05-14 10:54, Larry McVoy wrote: >> On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 09:33:36AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: >>> It's a lot more than that, though. I was at IBM at that time, and = at >>> IBM, right about then the bonus for getting for getting published at = a >>> conference had gotten eliminated. It was very clear that as far as >>> IBM management was concerned, conference publication didn't matter. >>> If you filed a patent, you would get paid a cash bonus. If you = submit >>> to any conference --- you wouldn't. >> That's wild. To the best of my knowledge, Sun didn't give you a = bonus >> for either a paper or a patent, it was just part of the job. I = certainly >> never got a bonus for that stuff. They did pay expenses for = conferences >> but that was it. >=20 > We may be drifting off topic but my last employer paid $50 per = application filed plus $100 per grant. My penultimate employer paid a = lousy $1 (minimal required consideration). >=20 > S. >=20