From: Tim Bradshaw <tfb@tfeb.org>
To: Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>
Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] PDP-11 legacy, C, and modern architectures
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 09:30:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43A3E865-2557-47C6-8359-DEAFDF8571E6@tfeb.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <117BE24B-C768-43ED-A470-40FCD1662ECD@bitblocks.com>
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On 26 Jun 2018, at 23:20, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote:
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> With new attacks like TLBleed etc. it is becoming increasingly clear that
> caching (hidden memory to continue with the illusion of a simple memory
> model) itself is a potential security issue. I didn't think anything the
> author said was particularly controversial any more. A lot of processor
> evolution seems to have been to accommodate C's simple memory model.
That's the strangest thing to see: *why do people think the point he's making is in any way controversial*, because it's so obvious.
(But then I'm also annoyed by the paper because I've been talking about 'giant PDP-11s' for a long time and now he's stolen (obviously not stolen: independently come up with) my term, pretty much.)
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-26 17:54 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2018-06-26 18:03 ` Cornelius Keck
2018-06-26 21:21 ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
2018-06-26 21:56 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-06-26 18:52 ` Ronald Natalie
2018-06-26 19:01 ` Ronald Natalie
2018-06-26 21:16 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-06-26 21:50 ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-26 21:54 ` Ronald Natalie
2018-06-26 21:59 ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-26 22:20 ` Bakul Shah
2018-06-26 22:33 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-06-26 23:53 ` Bakul Shah
2018-06-27 8:30 ` Tim Bradshaw [this message]
2018-06-26 22:33 ` Andy Kosela
2018-06-27 0:11 ` Bakul Shah
2018-06-27 6:10 ` arnold
2018-06-27 2:18 ` [TUHS] PDP-11 legacy, C, and modern architectTures Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-27 2:22 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-28 14:36 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-06-27 11:26 ` [TUHS] PDP-11 legacy, C, and modern architectures Tony Finch
2018-06-27 14:33 ` Clem Cole
2018-06-27 14:38 ` Clem Cole
2018-06-27 15:30 ` Paul Winalski
2018-06-27 16:55 ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-06-27 6:27 ` arnold
2018-06-27 16:00 ` Steve Johnson
2018-06-28 4:12 ` Bakul Shah
2018-06-28 14:15 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-28 14:40 ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-28 14:55 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-28 14:58 ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-28 15:39 ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-06-28 16:02 ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-28 16:41 ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-06-28 16:59 ` Paul Winalski
2018-06-28 17:09 ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-29 15:32 ` tfb
2018-06-29 16:09 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-29 17:51 ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-29 18:27 ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-06-29 19:02 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-28 20:37 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-28 15:37 ` Clem Cole
2018-06-28 20:37 ` Lawrence Stewart
2018-06-28 14:43 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-28 14:56 ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-28 15:07 ` Warner Losh
2018-06-28 19:42 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-28 19:55 ` Paul Winalski
2018-06-28 20:42 ` Warner Losh
2018-06-28 21:03 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-28 22:29 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-29 0:18 ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-29 15:41 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-29 18:01 ` Larry McVoy
2018-06-29 19:07 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-29 5:58 ` Michael Kjörling
2018-06-28 20:52 ` Lawrence Stewart
2018-06-28 21:07 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-28 16:45 ` Paul Winalski
2018-06-28 20:47 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-29 15:43 ` emanuel stiebler
2018-06-29 2:02 ` Bakul Shah
2018-06-29 12:58 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-06-29 18:41 ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-29 1:02 Noel Chiappa
2018-06-29 1:06 Noel Chiappa
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