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From: lyndon@orthanc.ca (Lyndon Nerenberg)
Subject: [TUHS] X, Suntools, and the like
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:29:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44029610-41EA-404A-AF14-F02A6EAC6143@orthanc.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170316230455.GA21805@naleco.com>


> On Mar 16, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Josh Good <pepe at naleco.com> wrote:
> 
> The real problem is that X11 predates the "GUI desktop metaphor".

The Mac proclaimed the bitmap screen interface to the world, but X11 (and Sunview) pretty much invented the GUI desktop metaphor.

Into the mid-late 1990s I was managing shops that were using NCD X11 network terminals to run all sorts of GUI-based office applications (WYSIWIG word processing, spreadsheets, what have you) off UNIX hosts, well before the web was anything more than a curiosity.  And that pedigree dates back to the mid-1980s, where SunOS 3 helped define the concept of diskless clients.  Which isn't quite the same thing, but all of this was happening long before, say, Windows came along. And *well* before Windows had the concept of remote GUI access.  And that was *well* *well* before those Windows machines grokked the concept of multiple-users-on-independent-graphical-desktops remote access.

Circa 1994, a batch of 20 colour NCD X terminals talking to something like an SGI Onyx would kick the living daylights out of an equivalent set of 20 80486 Windows 3.11 desktops, on compute performance, for the GUI desktop environment they provided, and overall functionality and productivity.

--lyndon



  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-16 23:29 UTC|newest]

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2017-03-14 18:49 Ron Natalie
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2017-03-15  1:13                             ` Nick Downing
2017-03-15 10:15                               ` Tim Bradshaw
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2017-03-15 11:03                                     ` Nick Downing
2017-03-15 12:03                                       ` tfb
2017-03-15 13:12                                         ` Nick Downing
2017-03-15 14:37                                           ` tfb
2017-03-15 16:40                                           ` Kurt H Maier
2017-03-15 16:52                                             ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-16 23:04                                             ` Josh Good
2017-03-16 23:29                                               ` Robert Swierczek
2017-03-17  1:15                                                 ` Nick Downing
2017-03-16 23:29                                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg [this message]
2017-03-17  0:05                                                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17  5:55                                                 ` arnold
2017-03-17 12:56                                                 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-17 15:19                                                 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-17 20:17                                                   ` Josh Good
2017-03-17 20:30                                                     ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-17 20:44                                                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17 21:08                                                         ` Dan Cross
2017-03-17 22:50                                                           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17 22:58                                                             ` Dan Cross
2017-03-17 23:17                                                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17 23:22                                                                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-18 15:45                                                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-18 16:59                                                                   ` Andy Kosela
2017-03-18 23:05                                                                     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-18 23:32                                                                       ` Nick Downing
2017-03-19  7:20                                                                         ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-17  0:13                                               ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-17  3:16                                                 ` jsteve
2017-03-23 19:16                                                   ` Michael Parson
2017-03-17 12:39                                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-17 12:45                                                   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-17 16:49                                                   ` Tony Finch
2017-03-18 15:43                                                     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-17 14:39                                                 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-17 16:21                                                   ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-17 16:29                                                     ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-17 17:42                                                     ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-17 21:39                                                     ` [TUHS] X->VNC->RDP experience [was " Charles H Sauer
2017-03-19  6:11                                               ` [TUHS] " Robert Brockway
2017-03-19 11:56                                                 ` Josh Good
2017-03-15 20:48                               ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-17 13:05 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-17 15:06 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-17 15:39 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-17 17:56 ` Ron Natalie

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