From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 16644 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2022 02:25:27 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Jan 2022 02:25:27 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A7E3A9C1D7; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:25:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822149C0CA; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:25:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D367D9C0CA; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:25:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from orthanc.ca (orthanc.ca [208.79.93.154]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28AB49C0BE for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:25:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from orthanc.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orthanc.ca (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a212aedf; Mon, 10 Jan 2022 18:25:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)" To: Dan Cross In-reply-to: References: <20211231234039.GU31637@mcvoy.com> <20220101005605.GL75481@eureka.lemis.com> <20220101031511.GB8135@mcvoy.com> <20220110203300.GY3441@mcvoy.com> Comments: In-reply-to Dan Cross message dated "Mon, 10 Jan 2022 16:04:07 -0500." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <62643.1641867908.1@orthanc.ca> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 18:25:08 -0800 Message-ID: <4409b93407ed2118@orthanc.ca> Subject: Re: [TUHS] TeX and groff (was: roff(7)) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list , Douglas McIlroy Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Dan Cross writes: > This is interesting; I've always felt like I could pick out troff pretty > readily; I agree that TeX has a certain "look" to it (at least by default), > but I always felt the same about troff as well. My guess this is more about how ms(7) does page layout. I can spot those documents from a mile away :-) But older versions of troff can often be spotted by how box corners don't always line up properly. A lot of people get turned off by how troff markup can often look like line noise. That's true, but if you spend the time to actually learn the syntax (and it's really not that hard), you can't help but be overwhelmed by the beauty of its self-consistency. Although after three decades I still can't wrap my head around traps and diversions :-P --lyndon