From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13061 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2021 00:59:44 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Aug 2021 00:59:44 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7073E9CA9D; Tue, 3 Aug 2021 10:59:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28159CA66; Tue, 3 Aug 2021 10:59:18 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="f43wJugz"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7F5889CA66; Tue, 3 Aug 2021 10:59:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pl1-f172.google.com (mail-pl1-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83ED79CA60 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2021 10:59:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pl1-f172.google.com with SMTP id j3so6610893plx.4 for ; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 17:59:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=YpMunKArIBqdhlshTZlBDQnzhMf5JlpSgu6tuBGp+w0=; b=f43wJugzRj3KEDOvbJzexbHQtzr3PfI0d/Bz4n7DL2h/Q8x/d9BbkX5xMMPY3Dm9vt 6yhQao4xtalKFqdrA/YMw28ayKLwn0pDnTQzb4EY7so6OenmRh3Ec1cbGLk5oqvG8GNw O9sIJGL2yvbXKnossmQrak/NxM0OANDjT4J9W5rSevPYSWnJh7l3H+iinjlpG5uRALpb o0ZCmtlTNce54JtZ47XkM8K7nRqjxLor+hRdVtueDQk8CsrW+c7MbpIC8sacWd1o4nd5 2tlRjExHIwNrF45OMQBijqs/j0sP50ku9KhCjQPa8PWGkZRV96g1XkBCXR5CvQw8tefu oKnA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=YpMunKArIBqdhlshTZlBDQnzhMf5JlpSgu6tuBGp+w0=; b=GZkd4EquFByBe32DVJPS5npfIYNvjrkJV1+zLd1QcDqvpncyTxiibrY6Jk47zxWgaB gaW3Cc+NVl0CDVY10+rwn7qiJDA4mHXmkaf4Jte6pvqM46Be9b/ImzO1mqwm4FOKvUJj Q1gIpsRnjdhAmrrYMFuyIX4he2sAMqSaAnEUoNU5TAFJcbOgfRFxsnTPvP47w/ri+qth gDKiMmIwZ9VYZ+PRiQHD1LsOTU2r14a6Ulg8gyd44u7SdZXdnsw45mLHMek1vl0IQa/U cQZy/NgCjnceXKZZCh60ynn8k4DavwsobQLvAxsoQsKoVty5W7O45EF7fK5oxy1psYam RSuw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530kXmssb3/OJKi+CLO/IPMGdvdYgIjFggfNpSX5uGWnbOfQM+lr iOzCWeaVrbCfMVa4dPC+OHw7x+9VBstqdw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzdFyiCcrCUyqwVaSSmNoAb1k1uMLjtMyzWJhFLE+KtPJCGNjXrKS9gkkiyMTHAaJC1NOPO+Q== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:2286:: with SMTP id kx6mr1651370pjb.11.1627952354276; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 17:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([2600:8800:7c80:700:dc0c:86bc:8e4b:6ac8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l12sm13115435pff.182.2021.08.02.17.59.13 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Aug 2021 17:59:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Thornton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 17:59:12 -0700 References: <202108022106.172L6I1i135429@darkstar.fourwinds.com> To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <44B352BC-D2A3-4AE0-B01E-2A13DB1BE816@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Subject: Re: [TUHS] fork (Re: Systematic approach to command-line interfaces X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" > On Aug 2, 2021, at 5:20 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: >=20 > On Aug 2, 2021, at 2:25 PM, Dan Cross wrote: >>=20 >> Fork has served us well for more than five decades; I've got no = argument with that. However, should we never question whether it = continues to be the right, or best, abstraction as the environment = around it continues to evolve? >=20 > An os with no fork() can be used to reimplement fork() for backward=20 > compatibility. You will anyway need all the things fork() used to do > in this brave new world. Oh man, now I=E2=80=99m having flashbacks to early Cygwin and what was = that, DJGPP for OS/2? Well, I picked a lousy week to give up sniffing glue anyway. Adam=