From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 77dc4fa4 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:51:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CBEB9A19DE; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 05:51:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7767A19D4; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 05:50:44 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=ZjWZk3Sn; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6A25BA19D4; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 05:50:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pf0-f175.google.com (mail-pf0-f175.google.com [209.85.192.175]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A099A19D3 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2018 05:50:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pf0-f175.google.com with SMTP id b17-v6so7117147pfi.0 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 12:50:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oDLisT+50w+S3fkTTeU7MbaupMFz0cFLWOJNPex1has=; b=ZjWZk3Sn1y+xh8ORkAQWwj0W8iFXPe+kY1ZWeNzzaQfV/KkX/+EMm2vv5xAX0LVMyW u4ExXY1qJlZNr/oh4NzEx3jJOuClv2/T6Ui3foDOXvUd7NYL+FtzCdlVJee8G26xcbcz nZBfn6mrCA5a+ZNVYH4xgEUZvUXTkaRzzTj/Ggj6/Tx6TEipOVpQ1OopFcaA6gYTa36U Zg2g2ehI/7c/hmSq2VZfaFGmjQNbj5DcM5VYLAcV1//bvAywPYRPl0Kex6uSdiSUKzWO i99uYcjJN9sPgzGL25O+60TfQGu8oRY+XEbN2kdkLu2+0u3h6v16e5O+NiHSrbbLpqGs 7cxg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oDLisT+50w+S3fkTTeU7MbaupMFz0cFLWOJNPex1has=; b=MTcOvAsden73ymHcl+V9L+mlmWhqCPT/jpiN05cUY5G7K58aT9ojqejwqPzDhNfOur F+tywANOSxPKtIBM+jUPdb91RT8EUOA3iRVWklFc10QHLhA7dA3tQnqKJBbsM00C52t0 OFCrQbUKjK91RiKYFeI42L9LXecOWxI8MB2zrSZpPDEyDak6oKDkUYZ83MM+//1oqJrk UuooyH5p1ia4aBnm7Y4OyDoC4yeVI1np/HDJHo9yxt0BgPz1pRlmT5keWHbqD/yEID5J 6vsk45/w/6jdhxAseh4MpPMBAvyQhHn7PYYMzZG858cM/9bbm3K2NndaOqSdv0ZX8Y/C 4Rdg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2jgEvzt3evRddHRIaX55NR+K3o+UhGfliEV0YmouxMqZFh9/QI JtboxEbyRKhcyaG1QEX8q1PXGG8M X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJ487Sb6qzrxgdMMoBVUO3Yp25W3NwIm0nOgauJlXfZPZfdSxdUZGz3sfL4kqRvrwJ2d/kqxA== X-Received: by 2002:a65:42c2:: with SMTP id l2-v6mr8637887pgp.237.1529265040631; Sun, 17 Jun 2018 12:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.42.4] (157-131-142-64.static.sonic.net. [157.131.142.64]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h84-v6sm20442071pfd.69.2018.06.17.12.50.39 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Jun 2018 12:50:39 -0700 (PDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <20180616133716.2302F18C0A7@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <20180617173341.GB31064@thunk.org> From: Jon Forrest Message-ID: <4505da5a-3e91-5e4a-fa22-135ee4ab4e91@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2018 12:50:39 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180617173341.GB31064@thunk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] core X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 6/17/2018 10:33 AM, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > The architects that designed the original (never shipped) Microsoft > Vista thought they had great "vision". There's a very fine boundary between "vision" and "hallucination". Jon