From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: bakul@bitblocks.com (Bakul Shah) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 10:34:19 -0700 Subject: [TUHS] UNIX of choice these days? In-Reply-To: <20170926144155.GW28606@mcvoy.com> References: <20170924140617.GG28606@mcvoy.com> <20170924203621.GA80203@wopr> <49B7FCB8-A086-4FFB-AF3B-4B3BD167EC54@bitblocks.com> <1506297783.59c847b740373@www.paradise.net.nz> <1506386563.59c9a2834015a@www.paradise.net.nz> <20170926144155.GW28606@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: <46A45CD5-45A0-44C8-ABC4-0644D7A23493@bitblocks.com> You probably know Brantley Coile did ata over Ethernet. AOE is a simple protocol so the client side driver is simple. He ran plan9 on his controller. One per rack. Basically you have a storage area network. Adding disks becomes very easy. His company is back in business if you want to buy some! AOE is probably a better idea than FCoE, fiber channel over Ethernet, with its requirement for a reliable transport. On the other hand, may be there is need for encrypted channels all the way to disks. > On Sep 26, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Larry McVoy wrote: > > So maybe Ron Minnich will remember this. Back in the days of 10Mbit > ethernet I was pushing for 100Mbit. Part of what I wanted was ethernet > all the way out to the disk drives. It was a little ahead of its time, > the idea was to run Linux on the general purpose processor and be able > to send the questions to the drive rather than slurping all the data > across and pawing through it on the main CPU. That was part of the > idea, the other part was power over ethernet and you need more space? > Just plug in a drive. > > It's been over 20 years since I proposed that and things are starting > to look up a little. Western Digital made a version of what I wanted, > an ethernet attached drive with a key/value store on the drive. Not > quite there but closer. And I just stumbled across this: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center_bridging > > Not sure how well that will work but it's interesting that people are > working on it. > >> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 01:42:43PM +1300, Wesley Parish wrote: >> Yes. I thought it made a lot of sense. >> >> Quoting Tony Finch : >> >>> Wesley Parish wrote: >>> >>>> I once thought of developing a computer where everything from the >>> core >>>> functions to the peripherals was a network node. In effect replacing >>> the >>>> bus. I found references to a Cambridge U (UK) computer system that >>>> purported to do just that but couldn't find any more info on it. >>> >>> The Desk Area Network, perhaps? >>> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/srg/dan.html >>> >>> Tony. >>> -- >>> f.anthony.n.finch http://dotat.at/ - I xn--zr8h punycode >>> Malin, Hebrides: Southeast 3 or 4, increasing 5 or 6, occasionally 7 >>> later in >>> west. Moderate becoming rough later. Fair. Good. >> >> >> >> "I have supposed that he who buys a Method means to learn it." - Ferdinand Sor, >> Method for Guitar >> >> "A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." -- Samuel Goldwyn > > -- > --- > Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm >