From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A2825C33 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2024 19:33:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E54427CD; Thu, 7 Mar 2024 04:33:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from server907.appriver.com (server907.appriver.com [204.232.250.38]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 227A3427BC for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2024 04:33:37 +1000 (AEST) X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Note-AR-ScanTimeLocal: 03/06/2024 1:33:36 PM X-Note: SecureTide Build: 2/14/2024 2:12:58 PM UTC (2.41.3.0) X-Note: Filtered by 10.246.0.224 X-Note-AR-Scan: None - PIPE Received: by server907.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 6.2.15) with PIPE id 390407421; Wed, 06 Mar 2024 13:33:36 -0500 Received: from [10.246.0.39] (HELO smtp.us.exg7.exghost.com) by server907.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.15) with ESMTPS id 390407412; Wed, 06 Mar 2024 13:33:33 -0500 Received: from smtpclient.apple (108.202.98.130) by E19DN02C-S1E7.exg7.exghost.local (192.168.244.113) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.2.1544.4; Wed, 6 Mar 2024 13:33:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Brantley Coile In-Reply-To: <20240306165352.6689418C082@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 13:33:22 -0500 Message-ID: <46A865A6-FE0C-4664-A745-FD46A8728D0D@coraid.com> References: <20240306165352.6689418C082@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> To: Noel Chiappa X-Mailer: iPad Mail (20G81) X-ClientProxiedBy: E16DN69A-S1E7.exg7.exghost.local (192.168.245.213) To E19DN02C-S1E7.exg7.exghost.local (192.168.244.113) X-Rerouted-By-Exchange: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Note-AR-ScanTimeLocal: 03/06/2024 1:33:33 PM X-Note: SecureTide Build: 2/14/2024 2:12:58 PM UTC (2.41.3.0) X-Note: Filtered by 10.246.0.224 X-Policy: coraid.com X-Primary: coraid.com@coraid.com X-Note-Sender: brantley@coraid.com X-Note-Envelope-Recip: FAILURE,DELAY, X-Note-Envelope-Recip: FAILURE,DELAY, X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note-SnifferID: 0 X-GBUdb-Analysis: Unknown X-Signature-Violations: 0-0-0-2598-c X-Note-419: 0 ms. Fail:0 Chk:1432 of 1432 total X-Note: VSCH-CT/SI: 0-1432/SG:1 3/6/2024 1:33:24 PM X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: PRIVATE->LOCAL X-Note-Sending-IP: 10.246.0.39 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: X-Note-Return-Path: brantley@coraid.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G386 G388 G389 G390 G407 G408 G409 G777 G1009 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: VALID Message-ID-Hash: TQEOOZZZL4BCWXHO5W4FTSUX6NA7YGPD X-Message-ID-Hash: TQEOOZZZL4BCWXHO5W4FTSUX6NA7YGPD X-MailFrom: brantley@coraid.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Honor declined List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Here here.=20 bwc > On Mar 6, 2024, at 11:54 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:= >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >>=20 >> From: Douglas McIlroy >=20 >> Although I jumped into Unix as soon as it was born, I was not one of >> those who "start[ed] to develop it". >=20 > http://doc.cat-v.org/unix/pipes/ >=20 > Dennis wrote that "UNIX is a very conservative system. Only a handful of i= ts > ideas are genuinely new." (And quite right he was, too!) Among the ones th= at > are new, pipes, although less important now than they used to be, were a m= ajor > part of the constellation of things that drove its adoption, early on. And= I > can't see how pushing pipes was not "developing UNIX"! I'm afraid you'll j= ust > have to live with it! :-) >=20 > Noel >=20