From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 27b98617 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 888F294F26; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 20:00:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A249491B; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 20:00:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3A2639491B; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 20:00:32 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 1878 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 20:00:31 AEST Received: from bagheera.alchemistowl.org (bagheera.alchemistowl.org [185.15.93.23]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C8D994803 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 20:00:30 +1000 (AEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bagheera.alchemistowl.org Received: from dynamic.wline.6rd.res.cust.swisscom.ch (dynamic.wline.6rd.res.cust.swisscom.ch [IPv6:2a02:1205:c69f:7510:59c9:c55d:6820:2de5] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by bagheera.alchemistowl.org (8.16.0.29/8.16.0.29) with ESMTPSA id x6H9Slip013368 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:28:47 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) From: Arrigo Triulzi In-Reply-To: <201907170810.x6H8AELx031974@freefriends.org> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 11:28:42 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <46FC947C-F150-4835-A858-3EE05A394A6A@alchemistowl.org> References: <8235a090-c48a-4587-8974-23305233bc33@PU1APC01FT026.eop-APC01.prod.protection.outlook.com> <3CFC8159-08DD-4647-8CEF-FE8D196AB3C9@ccc.com> <610F6FCB-F24D-4788-953A-83E0E6456622@ccc.com> <017d16e0-3a7d-b3e7-29b8-8a454d78463f@e-bbes.com> <201907170810.x6H8AELx031974@freefriends.org> To: arnold@skeeve.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old 386 Unix Versions, was: Re: PCC for the i386 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 17 Jul 2019, at 10:10, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: >=20 > emanuel stiebler wrote: >=20 >> On 2019-07-11 18:50, A. P. Garcia wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:31 PM Clem cole wrote: >>=20 >>> Did Sun have anything to do with that? I seem to recall something >>> called "Interactive Unix" for the 386, possibly marketed by Sun... >>=20 >> "Interactive Unix" was pretty nice back than. >> Anybody remembers ESIX? Still have the document wall for that ... >>=20 >> Cheers >>=20 >=20 > Sun had a '386 based system in early 90s-ish called the Road Runner. > I never saw it. It ran SunOS 4.x and I think was discontinued by the > time Solaris 2.x came along. >=20 > And, I *do* remember ESIX. We used it for our product at a startup > company I worked for. Initially System V R3 based, IIRC, and then > eventually SVR4; I think we saw an improvement moving to the > BSD fast file system. Does anyone have documentation or history for European efforts in the = Unix-like operating systems? For example there was Bull=E2=80=99s Chorus = which I seem to recall was based on Mach or a competing microkernel (it = was a very long time ago and I used it for no mare than about two = hours..). I am rather saddened by the fact that there is so much about all the = Unix (and not only Unix) history of computing in the USA and so very = little in Europe. I wouldn=E2=80=99t even know where to start, to be = honest, all I have as a history is the Italian side from my father and = his other mad friends and colleagues in Milan. So little of it is = recorded, never mind written down. Arrigo