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[Larry McVoy]

> Awesome work. I notice that you require at least a 486 to run this
> though. Is there any technical reason, or could this be moved to a 386
> by means of a simple recompile? Also, how 32-bit IS the port? Would it
> be hard to build a 286 version or even 8086/8088 version to give a
> real OS to the old XT/AT in the basement?

No offense intended, but why waste time on 386 (or even way more time on
286)?  I can't imagine that anyone has any of those machines anymore.
And if anyone is so broke that they do and can't afford a newer machine
I have piles of celeron boxes looking for a home.  300-500mhz with 64-128M
and probably a broken disk but maybe it works.  You pay shipping and they
are yours.  If you are doing interesting work and you are really broke
I'll pay shipping.

But 286?  Come on.  Let it go, it sucked.  I can almost see the point of
386 except that nobody has one.
-- 
---
Larry McVoy                lm at bitmover.com           http://www.bitkeeper.com

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[John Cowan]

Larry McVoy scripsit:

> No offense intended, but why waste time on 386 (or even way more time on
> 286)?  

Why waste time watching football on television?

(This is a stock answer to the question "Why waste time on artificial
languages?")

-- 
John Cowan   <cowan at ccil.org>   http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
One time I called in to the central system and started working on a big
thick 'sed' and 'awk' heavy duty data bashing script.  One of the geologists
came by, looked over my shoulder and said 'Oh, that happens to me too.
Try hanging up and phoning in again.'  --Beverly Erlebacher

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[lyricalnanoha]

On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Larry McVoy wrote:

> No offense intended, but why waste time on 386 (or even way more time on
> 286)?  I can't imagine that anyone has any of those machines anymore.

I've got an Apple //e (65SC02, 1 MHz, 128K RAM).

> And if anyone is so broke that they do and can't afford a newer machine
> I have piles of celeron boxes looking for a home.  300-500mhz with 64-128M
> and probably a broken disk but maybe it works.  You pay shipping and they
> are yours.  If you are doing interesting work and you are really broke
> I'll pay shipping.

How much? If you've still got a bunch, I might look into it when my next 
check comes in. I could use a spare box to throw BSD on for 
experimentation :P

> But 286?  Come on.  Let it go, it sucked.  I can almost see the point of
> 386 except that nobody has one.

I did a lot of my development work on a 386/25 (upgraded from a 286) but 
that was 7 years ago.

-uso.

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[Warren Toomey]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:07:23AM -0400, lyricalnanoha wrote:
> > No offense intended, but why waste time on 386 (or even way more time on
> > 286)?  I can't imagine that anyone has any of those machines anymore.
> 
> I've got an Apple //e (65SC02, 1 MHz, 128K RAM).

I did a sort-of port of Xinu to the Apple ][+ way back when:

		ftp://minnie.tuhs.org/pub/apple2/apple2xinu.tar.gz

I know this isn't Unix-related, but I couldn't resist :-)

Cheers,
	Warren

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[Andrew Warkentin]

Warren Toomey wrote:

>On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:07:23AM -0400, lyricalnanoha wrote:
>  
>
>>>No offense intended, but why waste time on 386 (or even way more time on
>>>286)?  I can't imagine that anyone has any of those machines anymore.
>>>      
>>>
>>I've got an Apple //e (65SC02, 1 MHz, 128K RAM).
>>    
>>
>
>I did a sort-of port of Xinu to the Apple ][+ way back when:
>
>		ftp://minnie.tuhs.org/pub/apple2/apple2xinu.tar.gz
>
>I know this isn't Unix-related, but I couldn't resist :-)
>
>Cheers,
>	Warren
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>TUHS mailing list
>TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org
>https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs
>
>
>  
>
I downloaded that a while ago, but wasn't sure how to run it. Will it 
run in an emulator?

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[lyricalnanoha]

On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, Andrew Warkentin wrote:

> Warren Toomey wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:07:23AM -0400, lyricalnanoha wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> No offense intended, but why waste time on 386 (or even way more time on
>>>> 286)?  I can't imagine that anyone has any of those machines anymore.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I've got an Apple //e (65SC02, 1 MHz, 128K RAM).
>>
>> I did a sort-of port of Xinu to the Apple ][+ way back when:
>>
>> 		ftp://minnie.tuhs.org/pub/apple2/apple2xinu.tar.gz
>>
>> I know this isn't Unix-related, but I couldn't resist :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> 	Warren
> I downloaded that a while ago, but wasn't sure how to run it. Will it
> run in an emulator?

I couldn't get it to work in ApplePC or Dapple.  When I type -xinu it 
beeps, says "ERR" and returns to BASIC.

And there's something weird about STARTUP that sets TRACE on o.o; maybe 
it's the hacked ProDOS?

-uso.