From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 18312 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2023 22:39:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 Jan 2023 22:39:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D46424B7; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 08:39:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.196]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D01D0424B1 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 08:39:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: from makerlispvps ([74.208.29.250]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus003 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MFN9m-1pWz2X0bAq-00EIqC for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:39:17 +0100 Received: from [192.168.234.128] (unknown [172.58.76.151]) by makerlispvps (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 70B6988777 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:39:16 +0000 (UTC) To: tuhs@tuhs.org References: <202301180943.30I9hrOw030485@freefriends.org> <202301181513.30IFDDUJ015224@freefriends.org> <20230118151446.GD2964@mcvoy.com> <202301190802.30J82KwQ025718@freefriends.org> <20230119150434.GA626@mcvoy.com> From: Luther Johnson Message-ID: <4804766e-9c80-5d49-cbd0-ebea3d897df7@makerlisp.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 15:39:14 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3C380034868588C6C31849C0" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:eEWMSGBe9a4OlH1ZQkZ+nwkHhXk2GOhUqrUp8f1TApfD2lAvdeY uFDYr3lpe4Y8Sz5X+GfHsCuedDi6CEVAzQvw9l8e9kAt6UyQB6efWHrFVjiJHunDVYrmyh0 GUkKNn9HaAyCyyNr0LJJv1CMEC372U54Iqnnc3OJ/34yLrjs0VORoYSyKod1PotU5IVJkD4 UBdhPQHBMH7KxlLyO1QLw== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:JQJCVQKBKkA=;0Wjx3B2rvzGt+eJuRPnZlVwXe+W BwO4fPUTUARuvzK03f4z6AiEhc2Br7w/f4EAOvqJ0nH2OuYgWE4fXlHsz7mwa3YlNTvSOQVft 4vR2BRGbDGo5Lkg53qU6MyuYCYyLN/PEpf3PSJDwHB3lK45chbC1ti+79Briom2ccK+RryHUy 91AdJC6M8v0LRqD0nwwXz4RMZ5NnJlBz3JjOnpiyniwPRgjEw+EHLpvLHeBFn3hcxly1XsemX +2CAcsN8PTvyP4xp6Ha6I53v9799XHCzxPTHxC5wGbcNJze1deOH8qfbI/PNIGnGfqZhWklk4 EhYVxvTaFITCFH6gLQ0ES+W3+gJFGbnYIruhuS11bl4zWGmOHgAsu+K/kqOzikF/GE8EtL4UX V2BTSE1I6glFZ76LMTPv6KrH5XtREOnNPr+jnbh+cpQMI3QBW3ReDxZhJPMTlBRbk+oQOTxlQ t3rCD0j3Uj9d8YW2ZuYqGaQ1Ow3PdFmf0YqvxCyIFDUIiZrdOnE/gYEQOUi50fcQVeZCBbJl9 lf93Je/CFv1DxEVo2kFp1zEy8nz/OXdacOdyrRuSTvHL+tVbKgU2ZW3dBMojvDga8lcjpML6W Fsfp5sEru3KEjnZs1bOfiiRzYksohuwCEZIEoA2+bpbutBC0E8XftRVP5KZLttXUhNVccz/J4 Yop4tGB3VyVnsexlhrOv6HNu9cswzzoNJgzkZcPv7Q== Message-ID-Hash: 2YTOUQCBK2NV5YCILPPKZRIAQCZVHRAP X-Message-ID-Hash: 2YTOUQCBK2NV5YCILPPKZRIAQCZVHRAP X-MailFrom: luther@makerlisp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: The era of general purpose computing (Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3C380034868588C6C31849C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think development environments will follow the people onto their preferred platforms, and will change or adapt as necessary. So the kind of computing we are used to, with a "computer", may become more and more marginalized. Business will go where the numbers are, and what we think of as mainstream will become "retro" or "vintage". Most of my acquaintances who are 20 or 30 years younger than me, or my now-grown children, already think using a "computer" is kind of a "boomer" thing. On 01/19/2023 03:29 PM, Rich Salz wrote: > > What % of people running Chromebooks, Android or IOS > do any real programming on it? Even for laptops and > desktops that % is quite low. Most people run just a > few apps. > > > So what. 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