From: slapinid@gmail.com (Sergey Lapin)
Subject: [TUHS] Irwin 285
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:07:07 +0300 [thread overview]
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Wilko Bulte <wb at freebie.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Quoting Jochen Kunz, who wrote on Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:19:17PM +0100 ..
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:26:39 +0300
>> Sergey Lapin <slapinid at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > And I've got a strange device I've seen nowhere else - floppy-attached
>> > tape drive, labelled Irwin, model 285.
>> [...]
>> > Also - how wide these devices were used? I've never met one before
>> > while I can't say I have little IT experience.
>> Floppy tapes where quite common consumer grade (i.e. cheap crap) backup
>> drives in the early 90'is. They just mimic a floppy drive to the
>> controler. But you need special software to actually use the drive.
>> They don't work like a big floppy.
>>
>> Don't waste your time with this crap. Floppy streamers are sslllooowww
>> and unreliable. They are limited to the data rate of a floppy drive,
>> IIRC 500 kBit/s max. and the tapes need to be formated before use. They
>> have no "read after write" verify. So you need an extra verify run
>> after the backup was written. I.e. you need to run the whole tape three
>> times through the drive. This can take up to several hours.
>>
>> The only reason to resurrect one of these drives is to read old tapes
>> with important data that would be lost otherwise.
>
> Exactly. Even at the best of times this was basically junk, these
> days it is probably worse than junk. "SperrmÃŒll" ;-)
Ah, that's so bad, so I will really need to buy some vintage SCSI tape drive
to fullfill my backup needs. I see the reason why these devices are
nowhere to be found.
S.
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-21 10:26 Sergey Lapin
2010-01-21 10:51 ` Brantley Coile
2010-01-21 11:19 ` Jochen Kunz
2010-01-21 11:32 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-21 12:07 ` Sergey Lapin [this message]
2010-01-21 12:37 ` Jason Stevens
2010-01-21 13:02 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-21 16:50 ` Jochen Kunz
2010-01-21 17:11 ` Jochen Kunz
2010-01-21 17:37 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-01-21 17:41 ` Sergey Lapin
2010-01-21 19:00 ` Jochen Kunz
2010-01-21 19:10 ` Al Kossow
2010-01-21 19:36 ` Jochen Kunz
2010-01-21 19:41 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-21 19:45 ` John Cowan
2010-01-21 18:59 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-21 19:48 ` Jochen Kunz
2010-01-21 19:56 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-21 19:58 ` Larry McVoy
2010-01-21 20:00 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-21 20:11 ` Larry McVoy
2010-01-21 20:26 ` Jason Stevens
2010-01-21 20:41 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-21 20:44 ` Larry McVoy
2010-01-21 21:00 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-21 21:01 ` Larry McVoy
2010-01-21 21:36 ` lyricalnanoha
2010-01-21 22:15 ` Larry McVoy
2010-01-21 22:22 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-01-22 9:14 ` Jochen Kunz
2010-01-22 9:34 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-22 10:15 ` Jochen Kunz
2010-01-22 10:46 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-22 11:06 ` Jochen Kunz
2010-01-22 11:12 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-22 15:38 ` Larry McVoy
2010-01-22 16:52 ` Jochen Kunz
2010-01-22 16:55 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-21 20:46 ` Jason Stevens
2010-01-21 22:15 ` Aaron J. Grier
2010-01-21 22:57 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-21 20:36 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-21 20:44 ` Corey Lindsly
2010-01-21 21:45 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-22 0:36 ` [TUHS] Backup software (was: Irwin 285) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2010-01-22 0:48 ` Jason Stevens
2010-01-28 20:27 ` Brad Spencer
2010-02-12 17:03 ` Tim Bradshaw
2010-02-15 1:19 ` [TUHS] dump(8) compatibility (was: Backup software (was: Irwin 285)) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2010-02-15 1:24 ` Jason Stevens
2010-02-15 1:30 ` [TUHS] dump(8) compatibility M. Warner Losh
2010-02-15 2:27 ` Larry McVoy
2010-02-15 5:05 ` Warner Losh
2010-02-15 5:18 ` Jason Stevens
2010-01-21 20:33 ` [TUHS] Irwin 285 Jochen Kunz
2010-01-21 20:44 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-21 20:47 ` Larry McVoy
2010-01-22 9:23 ` Jochen Kunz
2010-01-22 9:32 ` Wilko Bulte
2010-01-22 0:38 ` [TUHS] Tape backups? (was: Irwin 285) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2010-01-21 20:18 ` [TUHS] Irwin 285 Jochen Kunz
2010-01-21 12:05 ` Andrzej Popielewicz
2010-01-21 12:12 ` Sergey Lapin
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