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A Pi might get= that installed via apt-get, or compiled from scratch (might have to do that= soon for some other project). As far as connectivity goes, places like Frys= sell USB-RS232 Adapters and null-modem cables, means one can avoid messing w= ith the Pi=E2=80=99s IO bits. Alternatively you could try uucp, but that requires more configuration. Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 24.06.2019 um 22:54 schrieb Jonathan Gevaryahu = : >=20 > I'd use something like imagedisk or teledisk or anadisk for reading the=20= > diskette; this will also preserve the deleted/unused sectors, the boot=20 > sector and the disk filesystem/metadata, while just copying the files=20 > off will lose most of this data. >=20 >> On 6/23/2019 7:10 PM, Mary Ann Horton Gmail wrote: >> Hunting around through my ancient stuff today, I ran across a 5.25"=20 >> floppy drive labeled as having old Usenet maps. These may have=20 >> historical interest. >>=20 >> First off, I don't recognize the handwriting on the disk. It's not=20 >> mine. Does anyone recognize it? (pic attached) >>=20 >> I dug out my AT&T 6300 (XT clone) from the garage and booted it up.=20 >> The floppy reads just fine. It has files with .MAP extension, which=20 >> are ASCII Usenet maps from 1980 to 1984, and some .BBM files which are=20= >> ASCII Usenet backbone maps up to 1987. >>=20 >> There is also a file whose extension is .GRF from 1983 which claims to=20= >> be a graphical Usenet map. Does anyone have any idea what GRF is or=20 >> what this map might be? I recall Brian Reid having a plotter-based=20 >> Usenet geographic map in 84 or 85. >>=20 >> I'd like to copy these files off for posterity. They read on DOS just=20 >> fine. Is there a current best practice for copying off files? I would=20 >> have guessed I'd need a to use the serial port, but my old PC has DOS=20 >> 2.11 (not much serial copying software on it) and I don't have=20 >> anything live with a serial port anymore. And it might not help with=20 >> the GRF file. >>=20 >> I took some photos of the screen with the earliest maps (the ones that=20= >> fit on one screen.) So it's an option to type things in, at least for=20 >> the early ASCII ones. >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> Mary Ann >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > --=20 > Jonathan Gevaryahu AKA Lord Nightmare > jgevaryahu@gmail.com > jgevaryahu@hotmail.com >=20