From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 26979 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2022 02:13:28 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Dec 2022 02:13:28 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0153B41C08; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 12:13:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pj1-f46.google.com (mail-pj1-f46.google.com [209.85.216.46]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1417741B8F for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2022 12:13:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pj1-f46.google.com with SMTP id hd14-20020a17090b458e00b0021909875bccso9295pjb.1 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2022 18:13:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=8/39+r8DcfX/7qACa90LmOcvpAFVB/Pad70eGSoba40=; b=Wb3qtX+3/JMcRRrazSeI/7hFRiYvAcZNYk2sOtCJwAD4pTJsj4WLdlMvy66czcC4MD pVUarEMBDOcQ/uMpvb8xOXQfank0UToKsqzF9RfYAmi5i5meG9RDnsLWZenriPOSTFCd c6O8lPzG/4kaM7rotvTMQwnvz6xVWoD4Z2f3LNsAorHAfJW/jTRJ6LeDEYVfJw6uKVxV D+gAFAYLpoReqLcmwXPj+NHjjKPNUhaNqmpjNfhcfIT/GGbCgRcjAgTh2iicQrtamK71 2ntm+q1RfKZYF7OP1srzJy8sHCXqVbx3fehbDe1E0CEJoGc/apYs7eVaixiX1lzLmM5X HQHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8/39+r8DcfX/7qACa90LmOcvpAFVB/Pad70eGSoba40=; b=bL6YLhkO/F0VXagUHflsRcdW5HmBR//GHcLlRkgJ/sw/7f86Mwi3aplMPEGlmmoSKY YJEZt7T0aR4pcnKFopz0Nt2RW4JTX10CjJbubUOl/fGHhERgFyKqjYpClcjelAAxAe2+ n0/IiJtoj9EGu+7VrrZXQdoakwZVaAXkv9vmz8FPB/+l/wbgR9+7J+hFJWU308lzBUSv sbx9XcdmzsWcJtYNjQ6lyWbFYtKiutw5Y0FbFZLDeczOoZoDzHceLY79AStnsHHsXPkr A1UsH94vieJe5jGwLezRnp9S3lup0/Lv1keS39vmok5zbbtRASRrusmO87dLYHD+ZGf+ DzhA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pk50hJkY4bBjF591VDPa87luePCX1c+nPvL7H1IRfBi6fxX+Pkn +Xy2Wf8sUdhUpAhZZx47XnSsZKzAkjI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf6GP5XpaBmNHYDoDZj2LpSmkoSPwvkxuQXKgFKmhlhEFpBeS9hzehgmsTv7Xa4QEU6y5/lSAw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:e0cb:b0:18f:6cb:22ca with SMTP id e11-20020a170902e0cb00b0018f06cb22camr34590907pla.67.1671502338055; Mon, 19 Dec 2022 18:12:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (ip98-165-124-124.ph.ph.cox.net. [98.165.124.124]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p8-20020a170902e74800b0018f6900a183sm7931408plf.140.2022.12.19.18.12.17 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Dec 2022 18:12:17 -0800 (PST) From: Adam Thornton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.300.101.1.3\)) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 19:12:06 -0700 References: <20221220013323.GL4401@mcvoy.com> To: TUHS main list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <4942C729-FCE2-4075-9B1B-08CB7FC33813@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.300.101.1.3) Message-ID-Hash: 4XB3XDTTUGH2WECOZBICE37G4NVQN4XO X-Message-ID-Hash: 4XB3XDTTUGH2WECOZBICE37G4NVQN4XO X-MailFrom: athornton@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: UNIX on (not quite bare) System/370 List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I mean all I really want for Christmas is a 64-bit v7 with TCP/IP = support, a screen editor, and SMP support. The third one is a solved problem. The second one would not be that = hard to adapt, say, uIP 0.9, to v7. That first one would require some = work with C type sizes, but getting larger is easier than the reverse. = It's that last one. Having said that...maybe what I really want is 64-bit 4.3 BSD? I mean, just a Unix, without all the cruft of a modern Linux, but which = can actually take advantage of the resources of a modern machine. I = don't care about a desktop, or even a graphical environment, I don't = care about all the strange syscalls that are there to support particular = databases, I don't care much about being a virtualization host.=