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* [TUHS] Tom Lyon's 3270 driver for UTS
@ 2022-06-21  2:56 Adam Thornton
  2022-06-21  3:41 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
  2022-06-21 14:18 ` Tom Lyon via TUHS
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Adam Thornton @ 2022-06-21  2:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: TUHS main list

While I know that there are people here who like good old ed...I've been playing with UTS under VM/370.  This version is from 1981 and I think it's v7.  But the important thing is that Tom Lyon wrote a 3270 terminal driver, and it comes with ned, which is a screen editor that feels a lot like XEDIT--which wasn't even in CMS at that point, although EE has been added to the VM370 Community Edition I'm using.  And the man pages are fullscreen as well.

UTS is very, very usable because of that.  This really is a wonderful terminal driver.

So, thank you, Tom!

Adam

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* [TUHS] Re: Tom Lyon's 3270 driver for UTS
  2022-06-21  2:56 [TUHS] Tom Lyon's 3270 driver for UTS Adam Thornton
@ 2022-06-21  3:41 ` Larry McVoy
  2022-06-21 14:18 ` Tom Lyon via TUHS
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Larry McVoy @ 2022-06-21  3:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Adam Thornton; +Cc: TUHS main list

I overlapped with Pugs at Sun, knew of him, heard he was smart, but didn't
really get it.  Then I saw the way he exposed the iommu to user space
(the bang for the buck was for VMs but researchers that were doing user
space networking also used it), that hit my radar screen as really good
work.

He's had a long career of doing useful stuff, pretty much everything he's
touched has gotten better.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 07:56:04PM -0700, Adam Thornton wrote:
> While I know that there are people here who like good old ed...I've been playing with UTS under VM/370.  This version is from 1981 and I think it's v7.  But the important thing is that Tom Lyon wrote a 3270 terminal driver, and it comes with ned, which is a screen editor that feels a lot like XEDIT--which wasn't even in CMS at that point, although EE has been added to the VM370 Community Edition I'm using.  And the man pages are fullscreen as well.
> 
> UTS is very, very usable because of that.  This really is a wonderful terminal driver.
> 
> So, thank you, Tom!
> 
> Adam

-- 
---
Larry McVoy            	     lm at mcvoy.com             http://www.mcvoy.com/lm 

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* [TUHS] Re: Tom Lyon's 3270 driver for UTS
  2022-06-21  2:56 [TUHS] Tom Lyon's 3270 driver for UTS Adam Thornton
  2022-06-21  3:41 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
@ 2022-06-21 14:18 ` Tom Lyon via TUHS
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Tom Lyon via TUHS @ 2022-06-21 14:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Adam Thornton; +Cc: TUHS main list

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Thanks, Adam.  I've always been proud of that driver.

Further credit - 'ned' was written by Dan Walsh (not the Redhat one), and,
like vi, it has 'ed' buried in it so all the familiar stuff just works.

It's possible to use UTS with ASCII terminals, but the hardware only
supports half-duplex, buffered, mode! I suspect it'd be possible to hack
the 270x emulator in Hercules to make it appear really full-duplex - then
one could add the real 'vi', etc.  But that would not be faithful emulation.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:56 PM Adam Thornton <athornton@gmail.com> wrote:

> While I know that there are people here who like good old ed...I've been
> playing with UTS under VM/370.  This version is from 1981 and I think it's
> v7.  But the important thing is that Tom Lyon wrote a 3270 terminal driver,
> and it comes with ned, which is a screen editor that feels a lot like
> XEDIT--which wasn't even in CMS at that point, although EE has been added
> to the VM370 Community Edition I'm using.  And the man pages are fullscreen
> as well.
>
> UTS is very, very usable because of that.  This really is a wonderful
> terminal driver.
>
> So, thank you, Tom!
>
> Adam



-- 
- Tom

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