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From: bqt@softjar.se (Johnny Billquist)
Subject: [pups] extract old archive format?
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:15:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BBEFE27.1080104@softjar.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.01.1004082057300.13963@t1.m.reedmedia.net>

Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> Well I found the ar specification (in ar.5 not ar.1).
> 
>              struct ar_hdr {
>                      char      ar_name[14];
>                      long      ar_date;
>                      char      ar_uid;
>                      char      ar_gid;
>                      int       ar_mode;
>                      long      ar_size;
>              };

Simple enough... :-)

> This is same as the old ar.c source.
> 
> (plus more in the manual page.)
> 
> Now my problem is I don't know what "long" or "int" is on the old PDP-11 
> / system 5 this was made on.

An int on the pdp11 is 16 bits, and a long is 32.
Remember? int is whatever size is most convenient for the architecture? :-)

> And I read about PDP-11 "middle endianess" (first time I heard of 
> "middle").

A mess, but we have to live with it.
In short, the bytes of a long on a PDP11 is likely laid out like this:
3412

So, the 16-bit values are each little-endian, but the 16 bit values as 
such, in the 32-bit view, is laid out as big-endian.
Thus middle-endian... :-)

> So I had (wrong but gets ar_name and ar_size correct for my few tests 
> for the first header but chops two characters into the data section).
> 
> struct {
>         char    ar_name[14];
>         int32_t ar_date;
>         char    ar_uid;
>         char    ar_gid;
>         uint16_t        ar_mode;
>         uint16_t        ar_size;
> } ar_buf;
> 
> Well I know above is wrong because ar_size and ar_date should be the 
> same. But I get ar_size correct each time. But it also loses the next 
> two bytes from the data. So I am guessing I have some endian issue where 
> I am getting some things reversed.
> 
> Any ideas?

As others already said, it's your compiler trying to optimize the 
alignments.
One solution (already presented) is to just play with 16-bit values.
You could also explain to the compiler that it shouldn't try to optimize 
the alignments, but since you have to deal with the middle-endianess 
anyway, you are probably better off just looking at 16-bit values and 
combine them into 32-bit values as needed yourself.

	Johnny




  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-09 10:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-09  1:13 Norman Wilson
2010-04-09  2:11 ` Jeremy C. Reed
2010-04-09 10:15   ` Johnny Billquist [this message]
2010-04-09  5:49 ` Bob Eager
     [not found] <337550.74945.qm@web82407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
2010-04-09  5:35 ` Jeremy C. Reed
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-04-09  2:40 John Holden
     [not found] ` <n2m5904d5731004082137u5b054823wd4a9ce55113b1dee@mail.gmail.com>
2010-04-09  4:39   ` Carl Lowenstein
2010-04-09 10:23     ` Johnny Billquist
2010-04-09 10:21 ` Johnny Billquist
2010-04-08 13:25 Jeremy C. Reed
2010-04-08 14:49 ` Tim Bradshaw
2010-04-08 15:16 ` Brantley Coile
2010-04-08 17:09 ` Bob Eager
2010-04-09  5:11 ` Warren Toomey

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