* [TUHS] in memoriam - Bill English, mouse co-creator @ 2020-08-10 22:49 Will Senn 2020-08-11 14:01 ` Clem Cole 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Will Senn @ 2020-08-10 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: TUHS main list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 402 bytes --] All, About a week ago, Bill English passed away. He was a Xerox guy, who along with Douglas Engelbart of "Mother of all demos" fame, created our beloved mouse: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53638033 I remember, back in the mid-1980's being part of a focus group evaluating Microsoft's mouse. Wow, time flies. -Will -- GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 874 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: [TUHS] in memoriam - Bill English, mouse co-creator 2020-08-10 22:49 [TUHS] in memoriam - Bill English, mouse co-creator Will Senn @ 2020-08-11 14:01 ` Clem Cole 2020-08-11 17:30 ` Earl Baugh 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Clem Cole @ 2020-08-11 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Will Senn; +Cc: TUHS main list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1278 bytes --] Thanks, Will. A mild sigh while reading it though because history seems to often forget Jack Hawley's role. Truth is he did not invent it, but he >>is<< the one that made them and got people to use them (the Xerox Alto's used a Hawley Mouse, DEC would use it, E&S used them etc.). As this article points out, he made about 80% of all the mice used in the 1970s: https://www.oldmouse.com/mouse/hawley/ - certainly the first ones I used at CMU before we got the Altos and then after the first Alto's appeared. Tek's Magnolia used a flavor of the Hawley mouse in 1979 [the ones with buttons horizontal/parallel to the 'body' - the original Alto mouse the buttons were horizontal and colored), but I don't remember what 3Rivers PascAlto used - I think so, but I don't remember. On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:50 PM Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com> wrote: > All, > > About a week ago, Bill English passed away. He was a Xerox guy, who along > with Douglas Engelbart of "Mother of all demos" fame, created our beloved > mouse: > > https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53638033 > > I remember, back in the mid-1980's being part of a focus group evaluating > Microsoft's mouse. Wow, time flies. > > -Will > > -- > GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2319 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: [TUHS] in memoriam - Bill English, mouse co-creator 2020-08-11 14:01 ` Clem Cole @ 2020-08-11 17:30 ` Earl Baugh 2020-08-11 17:40 ` Lawrence Stewart 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Earl Baugh @ 2020-08-11 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Clem Cole; +Cc: TUHS main list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1521 bytes --] The Sun 1 also had a Hawley mouse ( as an early option ), before they switched to the optical. Earl Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote: > > > Thanks, Will. A mild sigh while reading it though because history seems to often forget Jack Hawley's role. Truth is he did not invent it, but he >>is<< the one that made them and got people to use them (the Xerox Alto's used a Hawley Mouse, DEC would use it, E&S used them etc.). As this article points out, he made about 80% of all the mice used in the 1970s: https://www.oldmouse.com/mouse/hawley/ - certainly the first ones I used at CMU before we got the Altos and then after the first Alto's appeared. > > Tek's Magnolia used a flavor of the Hawley mouse in 1979 [the ones with buttons horizontal/parallel to the 'body' - the original Alto mouse the buttons were horizontal and colored), but I don't remember what 3Rivers PascAlto used - I think so, but I don't remember. > >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:50 PM Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com> wrote: >> All, >> >> About a week ago, Bill English passed away. He was a Xerox guy, who along with Douglas Engelbart of "Mother of all demos" fame, created our beloved mouse: >> >> https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53638033 >> >> I remember, back in the mid-1980's being part of a focus group evaluating Microsoft's mouse. Wow, time flies. >> >> -Will >> -- >> GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2805 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: [TUHS] in memoriam - Bill English, mouse co-creator 2020-08-11 17:30 ` Earl Baugh @ 2020-08-11 17:40 ` Lawrence Stewart 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Lawrence Stewart @ 2020-08-11 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Earl Baugh; +Cc: TUHS main list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2241 bytes --] > On 2020, Aug 11, at 1:30 PM, Earl Baugh <earl.baugh@gmail.com> wrote: > > The Sun 1 also had a Hawley mouse ( as an early option ), before they switched to the optical. > > Earl > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:03 AM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks, Will. A mild sigh while reading it though because history seems to often forget Jack Hawley's role. Truth is he did not invent it, but he >>is<< the one that made them and got people to use them (the Xerox Alto's used a Hawley Mouse, DEC would use it, E&S used them etc.). As this article points out, he made about 80% of all the mice used in the 1970s: https://www.oldmouse.com/mouse/hawley/ <https://www.oldmouse.com/mouse/hawley/> - certainly the first ones I used at CMU before we got the Altos and then after the first Alto's appeared. >> >> Tek's Magnolia used a flavor of the Hawley mouse in 1979 [the ones with buttons horizontal/parallel to the 'body' - the original Alto mouse the buttons were horizontal and colored), but I don't remember what 3Rivers PascAlto used - I think so, but I don't remember. >> >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:50 PM Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com <mailto:will.senn@gmail.com>> wrote: >> All, >> >> About a week ago, Bill English passed away. He was a Xerox guy, who along with Douglas Engelbart of "Mother of all demos" fame, created our beloved mouse: >> >> https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53638033 <https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53638033> >> >> I remember, back in the mid-1980's being part of a focus group evaluating Microsoft's mouse. Wow, time flies. >> >> -Will >> -- >> GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF Hawley built the first mice used by PARC. The first optical mouse was invented, AFAIK, by Dick Lyon, see http://www.dicklyon.com/tech/OMouse/OpticalMouse-Lyon.pdf <http://www.dicklyon.com/tech/OMouse/OpticalMouse-Lyon.pdf> This paper has a brief history of Xerox mechanical mice as well. Dick is just a renaissance engineer, with contributions to hearing aids, the Fovea camera, and he later designed the Google Street View cameras. His book on Human and Machine Hearing is outstanding. -L [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4258 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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