From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF89217BA for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2024 21:52:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794C34131A; Mon, 12 Feb 2024 06:51:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from lists.tip.net.au (pasta.tip.net.au [IPv6:2401:fc00:0:129::2]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE95741309 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2024 06:51:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [203.7.112.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailhost.tip.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4TY0BS0ddgz9R1D; Mon, 12 Feb 2024 07:51:43 +1100 (AEDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.300.61.1.2\)) From: steve jenkin In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 07:51:30 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4FA76B45-E3C7-4454-9078-DE21F89BAE25@canb.auug.org.au> References: To: TUHS X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.300.61.1.2) Message-ID-Hash: 6LW57OHX2RJTNDO3YJYBEBLNHPK4HGIT X-Message-ID-Hash: 6LW57OHX2RJTNDO3YJYBEBLNHPK4HGIT X-MailFrom: sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Role of Unix in Australian Accounting research: Ball & Brown, founding AGSM List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Correction: they=E2=80=99d not done any computing at UNSW. Laurence Fisher at U Chicago =E2=80=98created the data base=E2=80=99. UNSW Faculty of Commerce / Accounting created the first "Information = Systems=E2=80=9D department & courses in 1974 under Cyril Brooks. AGSM at UNSW was created in 1976, with Ball & Brown working together = again. On 12 Feb 2024, at 04:04, Ball, Ray wrote: Thanks for your interest.=20 Neither Phil nor I had any exposure to computing at UNSW.=20 With one exception we both started our programming with Fortran on the U = Chicago 7094 (with job flows scheduled by a 7040). =20 The exception is that in the summer of 1966, before leaving for Chicago, = I interned at IBM in Sydney working on a 360, but that was pretty simple = stuff. > On 10 Feb 2024, at 17:47, steve jenkin = wrote: >=20 >=20 > >=20 > While Ball & Brown studied in Faculty of Commerce, they obviously had = enough of a grounding > in =E2=80=98computing=E2=80=99 and data collection / handling / = analysis to set the stage for their 1968 paper. >=20 > In 1971, Fortran IV was taught to first year students in Science, = using John M Blatt=E2=80=99s (of UNSW) textbook. > It=E2=80=99s not unreasonable that Finance & Accounting had courses or = training in Computing 5 years before that. >=20 > Within 10 years, they were both back at UNSW, running AGSM, teaching & = using Digital research methods, > based solidly on Unix=E2=80=A6 >=20 > cheers > steve >=20 -- Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design=20 0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915) PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin