From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tfb@tfeb.org (Tim Bradshaw) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:58:06 +0100 Subject: [TUHS] Classic Unix workstation GUIs In-Reply-To: <201209121020.q8CAKIIK022697@freefriends.org> References: <20120911065802.GI8834@arwen.poofy.goof.com> <85wqzz24bt.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <201209121020.q8CAKIIK022697@freefriends.org> Message-ID: <4FAAFC4F-5311-40F4-A696-999B6B31B36A@tfeb.org> On 12 Sep 2012, at 11:20, arnold at skeeve.com wrote: > I believe that the original Sun Windowing system also predated widespread > use of X Windows. I used this (I remember it having various names: was it originally Suntools but then later Sunview?) in 1988-89, and my wife will remember earlier history than that (she ran the first Sun in Scotland). There was some big performance thing that happened to X: X existed by the time I used Suns, but it was just catastrophically slow - I had a 3/50 without the secret extra memory you could get and you really *had* to use Suntools on that because X was just unusable (you could quite easily understand what order things like menus got drawn in by watching). Then, I think, X11R3 (might have been not that release but a later one) came out, and it was acceptably quick, and everyone changed except for a few holdouts. --tim