From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 76c61c18 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 02:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D05DD9C17B; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:32:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F04793D74; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:31:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 186F793D74; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:31:28 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 734 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:31:26 AEST Received: from neener.bl.org (neener.bl.org [50.116.26.109]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B3A93D71 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:31:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from www.bl.org (neener.bl.org [50.116.26.109]) (authenticated bits=0) by neener.bl.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id xAO2JBs8007630 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2019 20:19:11 -0600 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 20:19:11 -0600 From: Michael Parson To: tuhs@tuhs.org Organization: BL dot ORG In-Reply-To: <20191121031423.GC23794@mcvoy.com> References: <201911191901.xAJJ1d76006989@skeeve.com> <20191121031423.GC23794@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: <4cea77334701f2c001f2715c6350534e@bl.org> X-Sender: mparson@bl.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.8 X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (neener.bl.org [50.116.26.109]); Sat, 23 Nov 2019 20:19:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Steve Bellovin recounts the history of USENET X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 2019-11-20 21:14, Larry McVoy wrote: > Yeah, I'd be super happy if he joined the list. I enjoyed reading > those, wished he had gone into more detail. > > On the Usenet topic, does anyone remember dejanews? Searchable > archive of all the posts to Usenet. Google bought them and then, > so far as I know, the searchable part went away. Deja News was a customer of the data center I worked at back in '97-'99, smartnap.net. My usenet server fed directly into theirs, which made all of my other customers (and several other people on the net) want to peer with me, since one of the ways some people judged how "good" a usenet feed was was how quickly a post could be viewed on dejanews.com. They took up about 1/4 the space of our ~12k sq ft facility. My current boss was one of the news admins there. As I understood it, they had pretty much everything from when they started, plus had donated tapes of older stuff that they would periodically load up and add to the online bits. By the time Google bought them, they'd dropped the 'News' part of their name and were focusing on being a product search engine under the name "Deja." All Google was really interested in was the usenet archives. > If someone knows how to search back to the beginnings of Usenet, > my early tech life is all there, I'd love to be able to show my kids > that. Big arguing with Mash on comp.arch, following Guy Harris on > comp.unix-wizards, etc. Searching for an old username of mine on group.google.com finds posts I made in 1993, when I first started using usenet in college. -- Michael Parson Pflugerville, TX KF5LGQ