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[47.24.39.61]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h91sm2987289otb.38.2021.10.04.10.41.55 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Oct 2021 10:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4fbe7200-a619-9523-4edc-612b5dd73bcc@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 12:41:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.1.2 Content-Language: en-US To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: From: Will Senn In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] 4.3BSD-Tahoe Restoration X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 10/4/21 12:22 PM, Henry Bent wrote: > My question is: how was this sort of thing done in the real world?  If > I was a site running stock 4.3BSD, would I have received (or been able > to request) updated tapes at regular intervals?  The replacement > process that I have been using is fairly labor intensive and on a real > VAX would have been very time intensive too.  Fortunately two to three > years' worth of changes were not so drastic that I ever found myself > in a position where the existing tools were not able to compile pieces > of Tahoe that I needed to proceed, but I could easily imagine finding > myself in such a place.  (This was, by the way, what I ran into when > attempting to upgrade from 2.9BSD to 2.10BSD, despite a fully > documented contemporary upgrade procedure). Hi Henry, I expect folks who actually ran this can weigh in with the 'real world' perspective. What I can offer is that the document entitled, "Installing and Operating 4.3BSD-tahoe UNIX* on the VAX" by the folks doing the release (CSRG) is probably canonical: http://blog.livedoor.jp/suzanhud/BSD/4.3BSD_Tahoe_VAX.pdf There's a section on migrating 4.2/4.3 to tahoe and the like. After it's up and running, it looks a little shy on details, but getting there seems well enough documented. If it's anything like 1bsd+, it seems like it was usually unpack and copy to the right locations, with the occasional compile with the right options thrown in. Will