From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: steve@smdconsulting.com (Davidson, Steve)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:22:31 -0500
Subject: [pups] Re: GCC
Message-ID: <51E99925D01CD511B2FA00A0244EE8EED752@SMDCONSULTING01>

Johnny,

I have access to both RT-11 and RSTS/E systems here.  I would be happy to
give the testing a shot.  My preference would be RT first, and then if you
get no other takers, RSTS.

Regards,

			Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Johnny Billquist [SMTP:bqt at update.uu.se]
> Sent:	Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:13
> To:	SHOPPA at trailing-edge.com
> Cc:	PUPS at minnie.tuhs.org
> Subject:	Re: [pups] Re: GCC
> 
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 SHOPPA at TRAILING-EDGE.COM wrote:
> 
> > Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> writes:
> > > DECUS C might be a better starting point.
> > 
> > DECUS C is kind-of a funny case.  Whereas most C compilers are
> > traditionally maintained and distributed as C source code, DECUS C
> > is distributed and maintained in PDP-11 assembly language.
> 
> True.
> 
> > For other C compilers, a significant milestone was when they were
> > rewritten in C and compiled themselves.  DECUS C is the odd guy out
> because
> > it never tried to reach this milestone.  In some sense this is a good
> thing,
> > because it lets you build it on a machine without any access to any C
> compiler.
> 
> Which definitely is a good thing in this case. Since most systems don't
> have a C compiler anyway, the first compiler have to get down there
> someway, and MACRO-11 is the only language you *know* exist.
> 
> I'm soon done with a cleanup of DECUS-C by the way. I've tried to collect
> all the different versions I can find, and incorporated my own fixes as
> well. This version will support I/D space correctly in RSX (which no other
> version except my in-house hacks have done), will have a working profiler
> again, and also supports RMS and DAP. Fun fun...
> I'm testing it right now, and most things looks like they are working like
> a charm.
> However, if someone have plenty of time, and an RSTS/E or RT-11 system
> around, I'd sure appreciate some help. I've tried to keep those parts
> up-to-date as well, but I cannot test, or fix broken things.
> 
> This compiler have been a mess for many years now... About time it got
> some cleanup.
> 
> Oh. And I don't know if Allan Baldwin (sp?) have some extra hacks in for
> his IP-stack, and I haven't even investigated.
> Anyone know?
> 
> 	Johnny
> 
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