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[99.139.148.170]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c15sm411898oiy.13.2020.08.09.14.31.37 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 09 Aug 2020 14:31:37 -0700 (PDT) To: Clem Cole References: <40bd6da0-b83d-7963-1bc6-ab562bbde287@gmail.com> From: Will Senn Message-ID: <53608f1c-4bcc-a15c-7ca2-3317879a157c@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2020 16:31:36 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CC24ABFE0B8AD5CE21528BDD" Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [TUHS] 211bsd kermit working X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------CC24ABFE0B8AD5CE21528BDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, that sure sounds easy. I found the core file and figured out that: adb /usr/new/kermit kermit.core was the incantation to load stuff into adb. $c is the stack trace: $c 0177520: ~signal(016,01) from ~sysinit+034 0177542: ~sysinit() from ~main+010 0177560: _main() from start+0104 adb> ^D If this means it got signal 16... or 1 from the sysinit call (called from main), then according to man signal 16's urgent condition present on socket, and 01's just hangup. 's all greek to me at this point. I'm super new to adb. I tried your approach adb /usr/new/kermit and it brought up the adb prompt, so I gather it works that way too, but I couldn't figure out how to run it from there. A quick perusal of the adb man page didn't really help. I'm off to finish reading the ADB tutorial that I bailed on last week in v7 after I hit the there's no fcreat in v7 issue  :). Will On 8/9/20 4:12 PM, Clem Cole wrote: > try this: adb /usr/new/kermit > Then run it and let it crash.  You'll get an adb prompt, look at the > stack and see what system call number was pushed. > > I suspect it a versioning issue that Warner has been discussing as 2.X > changed over time. > > That said, it might just be easier to try to recompile c-kermit. > > Clem > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 5:06 PM Will Senn > wrote: > > I'm running 211bsd pl 431 in SimH on FreeBSD. I've got networking > working on a tap interface both inbound and outbound. I still have > a few issues hanging around that are bugging me, but I'll > eventually get to them. One that is of concern at the moment is > kermit. It is in the system under /usr/new/kermit. When I call it, > I get: > > kermit > Bad system call - core dumped > > I don't see core anywhere and if I did, I'd need to figure out > what to do with it anyway (mabye adb), but I'm wondering if > anyone's used kermit successfully who is on pl 431 or knows what's > going on? > > Thanks, > > Will > > -- > GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF > -- GPG Fingerprint: 68F4 B3BD 1730 555A 4462 7D45 3EAA 5B6D A982 BAAF --------------CC24ABFE0B8AD5CE21528BDD Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Well, that sure sounds easy. I found the core file and figured out that:

adb /usr/new/kermit kermit.core

was the incantation to load stuff into adb. $c is the stack trace:
$c
0177520: ~signal(016,01) from ~sysinit+034
0177542: ~sysinit() from ~main+010
0177560: _main() from start+0104
adb> ^D

If this means it got signal 16... or 1 from the sysinit call (called from main), then according to man signal 16's urgent condition present on socket, and 01's just hangup. 's all greek to me at this point. I'm super new to adb. I tried your approach adb /usr/new/kermit and it brought up the adb prompt, so I gather it works that way too, but I couldn't figure out how to run it from there. A quick perusal of the adb man page didn't really help. I'm off to finish reading the ADB tutorial that I bailed on last week in v7 after I hit the there's no fcreat in v7 issue  :).

Will


On 8/9/20 4:12 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
try this: adb /usr/new/kermit
Then run it and let it crash.  You'll get an adb prompt, look at the stack and see what system call number was pushed.

I suspect it a versioning issue that Warner has been discussing as 2.X changed over time.

That said, it might just be easier to try to recompile c-kermit.   

Clem

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 5:06 PM Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm running 211bsd pl 431 in SimH on FreeBSD. I've got networking working on a tap interface both inbound and outbound. I still have a few issues hanging around that are bugging me, but I'll eventually get to them. One that is of concern at the moment is kermit. It is in the system under /usr/new/kermit. When I call it, I get:

kermit
Bad system call - core dumped

I don't see core anywhere and if I did, I'd need to figure out what to do with it anyway (mabye adb), but I'm wondering if anyone's used kermit successfully who is on pl 431 or knows what's going on?

Thanks,

Will

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