From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f75416dc for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 15:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 41F659EE05; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 01:05:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58079E5BE; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 01:05:22 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=tnetconsulting.net header.i=@tnetconsulting.net header.b=S1BHqKLI; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BBB689E5BE; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 01:05:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net (tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net [45.33.28.24]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E1E29E5BD for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2018 01:05:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from REDACTED (hal9000.thn.corp.google.com [IPv6:2620:0:102a:11:fe50:e322:5780:92c6]) (authenticated bits=0) by tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-3) with ESMTPSA id w5PF5I14004781 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:05:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=tnetconsulting.net; s=2015; t=1529939119; bh=iXCQWh0UQ/SvIBD7FPFHsAuzfJ8dfOvy6eSlXtvRFPI=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Disposition: Content-Language:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Date:From: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:MIME-Version:References:Reply-To: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Sender:Subject:To: User-Agent; b=S1BHqKLI8axv1XccNjPT3sfd5ugv2rbAPDXMF5/cRV5XnLsRDErNpZTos0vaYFh3e ip9K7MCWqrnvc/huTVorVM/LyBAsR5+HnyKNfjZOZe/2xF45EOfHAmwsgJDUSu8QXI RFx3SOeQzqJfl3l+VZvT51jdbH4NfAZCQFwMFnrA= To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <20180621234706.GA23316@minnie.tuhs.org> <20180622142846.GS21272@mcvoy.com> <20180622145402.GT21272@mcvoy.com> <20180622151751.BEK9i%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20180622192505.mfig_%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <89e5ae21-ccc0-5c84-837b-120a1a7d9e26@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> <20180623144959.M9byU%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <201806250615.w5P6FgHA018820@freefriends.org> Organization: TNet Consulting Message-ID: <53713b13-0f08-5ff6-87bb-730e6b58c24e@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 09:05:18 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201806250615.w5P6FgHA018820@freefriends.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms080000060002050302060805" Subject: Re: [TUHS] off-topic list X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Grant Taylor via TUHS Reply-To: Grant Taylor Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080000060002050302060805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/25/2018 12:15 AM, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > So what is the alternative? I've been using it for years with a=20 > pretty static setup to route incoming mail to different places. I need= =20 > *something* to do what it does. As others have pointed out, Sieve and Maildrop are a couple of options. I've looked at both of them a few times, somewhat in earnest when I last = built my mail server, but didn't feel that they would be drop in=20 replacements for my existing LDA needs. Perhaps my limitations are my own making. I use Maildir and want an LDA = that is compatible with that. At (currently) 453 procmail recipes, I'd=20 like something that is closer to a drop in replacement. I will rewrite=20 things if I must, but I'd rather not if it's not required. I think one of the reasons the LDA space is languishing is that many=20 mail servers seem to migrating to mail stores that are more centralized=20 / virtualized under one unix account, and they come with their own=20 purpose built LDA. The other option that Arnold mentioned, writing your own LDA, seems=20 somewhat unpleasant to me. Can it be done, absolutely. I'm afraid that = anything I would produce would likely share similar security problems=20 that Procmail may very well have. Which leaves me wondering, am I=20 better off using a tool with a questionable security posture and others=20 looking at it and trying to abuse it -or- my own tool with a completely=20 unknown security posture that nobody else is looking at. Thus I choose=20 the lesser of the evils and continue to use Procmail. Thanks to Michael and Adam for mentioning Sieve and Maildrop=20 (respectively) while I was too lazy to comment on my phone in bed. --=20 Grant. . . . unix || die --------------ms080000060002050302060805 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC CxcwggUpMIIEEaADAgECAhAIzwdZriPvq7FXSbc0jGReMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMIGXMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQHEwdTYWxm b3JkMRowGAYDVQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDE9MDsGA1UEAxM0Q09NT0RPIFJTQSBD bGllbnQgQXV0aGVudGljYXRpb24gYW5kIFNlY3VyZSBFbWFpbCBDQTAeFw0xNzExMTcwMDAw MDBaFw0xODExMTcyMzU5NTlaMCsxKTAnBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWGmd0YXlsb3JAdG5ldGNvbnN1 bHRpbmcubmV0MIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAvhfMhFM6CDAWL4Mg xrKLLbzTCILpI7uBzgG/HFXxV92MX4fba+pAotqOV8of7uF4YykVw94lCsOmFeVkb8VNSn6Q 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