From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15970 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2021 22:44:55 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 28 Nov 2021 22:44:55 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 867DE9CF48; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 08:44:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7048794613; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 08:44:21 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ronnatalie.com header.i=@ronnatalie.com header.b="ab+TYh5M"; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b="OHKwqKL4"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D835494613; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 08:41:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF11C94586 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 08:41:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D736532009A1; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 17:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 28 Nov 2021 17:41:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ronnatalie.com; h=content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version :subject:date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; s=fm2; bh=lpaLj1y6bbmeilve//hF6UIDfelobJCpk9FaHGBbQJU=; b=ab+TYh5MvDp/ wiDZDQKIKiBcAPeD0OEW1Dv+GpiulgADGy7jRGcv30S+3onCXH8Z6G8TXMV+WTu/ bSaXi657o0nWCgvKOQRARk0eUHvPVso5c2yg3QRK7SESVtBs+bp18XB21HbxPgox cDTNYP/Uxupp2Oa+zSO13j8TW2+65CwBfD/ddszzbmFh3BkYr5aXL93qOasE7YU6 aXkO2Sz2z9Bxee7O32yA0Ej+R7UvIrcnpFP2po95n15m4ewCFn9kHEkqbDhgUcav YTZcdqPpVA0mJmINOlKJZaJVZLiSHVwCko2dtwLYooW/0on4qO+GamdNqJ1bs/x0 GBdLUVGwWw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=lpaLj1y6bbmeilve//hF6UIDfelobJCpk9FaHGBbQ JU=; b=OHKwqKL4GGq7QPYtPMUbB1uvZcOzHT2Wsn6eWt2mlDY+DZxNkFvbS0B9L 6k8IletGWknnwk08UveSZU8v/ykzQ/qrKADl4JidzNgqJ5cnZ/kdPsjNS1wT/M7q 1BqmLxmOFief4u02OgcaqLv2BI345br8RPsBp4m79AolRwJJ1ME6xja1eHQ82qpa 4hNMqbK8O6Rjpl6DcULoHAv74I5zldrMDNEJWp6cRS8BV5VJG/lMXXOCyjMLGjA3 y3v1UJOtUOS5Mo3poCoVCCxV1LwzAoiPWYi5EyBoySLhrIGLjHcfSrSSh1Oj8rMG Vfy2nQ8klaMRCaZamJV8mV7q7ng1w== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvuddrheejgddtvdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpegtgffhggfufffkfhgjvffosehtqhhmtdhhtdejnecuhfhrohhmpeftohhnucfp rghtrghlihgvuceorhhonhesrhhonhhnrghtrghlihgvrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtth gvrhhnpeekteeivefgteehfeffteettdehiefghffgveegkeevleekgfdtkeeiuedufefg udenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehroh hnsehrohhnnhgrthgrlhhivgdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 17:41:31 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ron Natalie Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 17:41:30 -0500 Message-Id: <5394A5C7-9CE7-4F26-AB98-BFE35C13C629@ronnatalie.com> References: In-Reply-To: To: Steve Nickolas X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18H107) Subject: Re: [TUHS] A New History of Modern Computing - my thoughts X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org, eugene@soe.ucsc.edu Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" The ++ operator appears to have been. The PDP-11 had addressing modes to so= predecrement and postincrement. =20 > On Nov 28, 2021, at 16:41, Steve Nickolas wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn Sun, 28 Nov 2021, Thomas Paulsen wrote: >=20 >> I heard that the null terminated string was a 11-build-in. >=20 > It's a fairly good fit for 6502, too. When I write 6502 code, all my mess= ages are stored as C strings. Because on an Apple, something like this... >=20 > putch =3D $FDED >=20 > entry: ldy #$00 > @1: lda msg, y > beq @2 > eor #$80 > jsr putch > iny > bne @1 > @2: rts >=20 > msg: .byte "Hello, cruel world.", 13, 0 >=20 > ...is pretty easy to do. >=20 > -uso.