From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 21761 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2020 02:18:45 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 Jul 2020 02:18:45 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3AEA99C8F9; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:18:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569FA9C8DD; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:17:26 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="kK9zc5ia"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D2BD79C8DD; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:17:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pf1-f180.google.com (mail-pf1-f180.google.com [209.85.210.180]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C0699C8C3 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:17:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pf1-f180.google.com with SMTP id z3so366213pfn.12 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:17:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L9dcCPhKu8kmQAUtEK1ToyNGnH8xXpsF6iwCqh85G10=; b=kK9zc5ianISEgL7qdeTGS4bGd5BCgpOrDM5bg4o2+Hg8wdvPDMCQNjdXYrS8zLJj31 VyJ+clswuY4TIz01etu6uApqUttEkuJeZBm+hoH+Qyv/7UnQOW2ZdUvouKKq+ZuLjgkX ujUziY/Ieo35AN4KGA7+CyRP8d9Tjo2nc25cenyHK1TipkzSFX0H6mALjkj80piNsgFr LWs1SukBpmKSBLZTeIjDLXjMWd6fm5tDg1jcBn6QoxVoIVpJv5jXLJWq8tm3V0jIY5E+ l/vPzzuHi6lt68Z134T+iAi33D9Hjy3j+m/GW9Pzo0Rx03+usYhG2WIAlU7HU9bEKZ9W Xnfg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=L9dcCPhKu8kmQAUtEK1ToyNGnH8xXpsF6iwCqh85G10=; b=Tr/bRbtdrL7r5SO8TzC3y3Eg3GLTsURNrd6Cytmxqg1SDJ3GpszW8aU2TKp9YEn/P5 tevCjZcYVnbSRKLfMG7A4u6IAQGsFyFxCg7jNlI1hjLqV7PFlxuKDBllSKOy1ynNMoAW /D61gRIMwrw33e16FMjd91ZaBOFE2UQbEMSE2aUlwnymCSkO61Txq+7Jsb+eLgS/CMJO ZVmONnZBji2FNu/lBvR7A/PmgDbSvFjK7SMY0ZZWRvLqyPd9QyvLytFFViF7bQV+1aaD y6Q94XFqoKxP5SP5mx9fFsvNxYDfwoFbRS3LS5SU0t35bKdU3If+M6mlJ88/qq5Amjxx REfg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531Y2vQ6a5WI1CPqH9yA38icOb4GdoDxZ9EHSOONe++TIOVwrRO1 CktWSk2yMHtLpbhycaGke4Q/RWXKEwU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyhKrDXG7RvG2oJizOzV9Mqjd7BhFpdmt8mpX86N2iWnhprmQCdrhaqf/bi0VsMFDneIxB5nQ== X-Received: by 2002:a63:5b55:: with SMTP id l21mr25612487pgm.348.1595384241272; Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.56] (157-131-108-81.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net. [157.131.108.81]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p29sm4136721pgl.36.2020.07.21.19.17.20 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:17:20 -0700 (PDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <862d8a34-456d-33c1-7ef0-58c6e8089de9@tnetconsulting.net> <202007211822.06LIMBJ4018831@freefriends.org> From: Jon Forrest Message-ID: <5489aab7-efb4-8bcd-3ca7-9b47e9b7b305@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:17:18 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] /bin vs /sbin X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 7/21/2020 6:44 PM, Dan Cross wrote: > When I first came on the scene, there was a convention that I thought > worked well: the "dataless" node. I have no idea why it was called that; I don't know either, but I implemented a dataless architecture for all the OSF/1 machines in the CS department at UC Berkeley in the 1990s. I wrote this up (see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/comp.unix.osf.osf1/-s1xW80zXPE/OGENDhH2Sc0J and it eventually made the OSF1 FAQ. It made a huge difference back when disks were small. This was done with NFS 3.X which had no local caching. I've always wondered how a dataless environment would work on NFS 4.X, which could do local caching. Jon